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Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #23

Imagine donating your body to science and then waking up in a lab as a brain in a vat. "A Living Soul" by P. C. Jersild is amazing sci-fi book exploring this. https://www.amazon.com/Living-Norvik-Press-English-Swedish/d... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._C._Jersild

I can't wrap my head around what it would be like to exist merely as a consciousness within my brain, lacking any sensory organs to perceive the surrounding world. Of course, I've also never been in a sensory deprivation tank.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #15
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t know what a brain disconnected from all sensory inputs feels. It could be agonizing pain for all that we know.

...they are pigs.

Pigs have the ability to feel pain. Many people believe we should minimize the undue suffering of sentient organisms.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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> Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Are you comfortable with the possibility that those who are reviving you might not be doing it for your benefit?

I think so. Still better than being dead. (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.)

That's the point, with this kind of technology, one can imagine unlimited tortures without possibility of dying to be relieved.

And the technology is here, it's only a matter of time before this kind of abuse starts happening.

I'm not saying we should not continue researching this, as the possibilities are endless, but let's not put the pitfalls under the rug

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

#34

Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Please make sure I am supplied with some good books to read, if at all possible.

Well let’s make sure we get consent from the research animals too.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #5

I don’t see why they bothered drugging the brains. Even if they became conscious, the pig’s bodies are dead and gone. There is nothing to feel, one is simply alone with their thoughts, perhaps even dreams.

We don’t know what a brain disconnected from all sensory inputs feels. It could be agonizing pain for all that we know.

It sure seems like patterns of cortical activation (or something like that) could be compared to some sort of waking standard to take a very good measured guess at some point.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #15
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don’t know what a brain disconnected from all sensory inputs feels. It could be agonizing pain for all that we know.

...they are pigs.

Some people care about the suffering of animals.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Throwing it out there—when I'm dead, you are totally allowed to resuscitate my brain. Better than being dead. Are you comfortable with the possibility that those who are reviving you might not be doing it for your benefit?

I think so. Still better than being dead. (If they're explicitly trying to cause me pain, that would be a no.)

There won't be any pain as brains don't have nerve endings. But you won't have any other senses too. Just pitch blank, deathly silence, floating for eternity.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

#39
post #7

Frankenstein has taught us nothing uh?

Idle thought: Frankenstein with VC money... "Yeah, we're raising our series A so we can ink a deal with a Chinese morgue for a steady supply of parts to stitch together, and to scale up our electricity generation to the needed amount so we don't have to depend on the odd lightning bolt, which turns out to be really rare here in Palo Alto"

That could be a great short, or a novel.

Re: Pig brains partially revived four hours after death

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post #23

Imagine donating your body to science and then waking up in a lab as a brain in a vat. "A Living Soul" by P. C. Jersild is amazing sci-fi book exploring this. https://www.amazon.com/Living-Norvik-Press-English-Swedish/d... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._C._Jersild

I can't wrap my head around what it would be like to exist merely as a consciousness within my brain, lacking any sensory organs to perceive the surrounding world. Of course, I've also never been in a sensory deprivation tank.

Even in a float tank you still have some sensory input, especially when you drift over and collide with the tank walls.
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