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New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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country doesn't need that many pilots if it doesn't wage endless wars, though.

Except they do. Pilots also fly in humanitarian aid, fly out civilians and medical casualties, carry out Search and Rescue, and perform reconnaissance during natural disasters.

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"and young people in their early 20's shouldn't mind deployments in the midwest or wherever." That to me sounds exactly like the kind of thing someone in their early twenties who is ready to head out and see the world would mind. Maybe I'm just projecting?

From my experience with pilots (family, NATO training base nearby), just the opportunity to flight high performance aircraft is a thrill. The name of the piece of land below you isn't as important as what aircraft you're in and what you're allowed to do with it.

And the spouses, naturally, are supposed to get along with the program.

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An Anecdotal "I quit" I read a couple of years ago about the (then impending) pilot shortage:

https://www.jqpublicblog.com/punching-out-latest-dear-boss-l...

Dear Boss,

I’ve fucking had it. I’m finally giving up on my Air Force and I’m throwing in the towel. Flying fighter jets is no longer cool enough to outweigh the bullshit, and so I’ve broken the mach for the final time. You’re going to believe that I’m leaving because I’m tired of deploying, that I’m sick of the queep, and that I seek the money bags and greener pastures of the Airlines. I’ve heard you on TV spouting those same lines over and over. Boss, I probably will join the airlines, but that’s not why I’m leaving. I’m leaving because my wife (I love my wife) got tired of hearing me come home every night and bitch about how the leaders of my Air Force are running it into the ground. I’m leaving because you took the coolest job on the planet, you, the leaders of this job, and you ruined it. You took one of the few jobs left in the world that kids hang posters of on their walls, and you made it so damn miserable that thousands of guys like me are calling it quits. And the worst part is, you have no idea HOW you made it miserable, and even less of an idea how to fix it. You are focusing on the second and third order effects, but not the root cause.

Boss, you were a fighter pilot. You were trained for years in how to identify the root cause. I know you have the ability to dig past the airlines, ops tempo, queep, and other reasons you’re currently focusing on, and find the DFP. I know that you know what it is, I just don’t think you have the stones to call it out in public and do something about it, so I’m pulling the handles.

Yes, life in my Air Force has gotten tough. But the real reason I’m leaving boss, the heart of the issue is this. I’m a leader, I always have been. People follow me because I’m good in the Air, I have a strong act in the bar, and I give a shit about the people that work for me. And because I’m a true leader, I will never lead in this Air Force. Instead, the guys that are leading in my place, and in the place of all of the others like me, are boot-licking, risk-averse, yes men who have spent an entire career being faithful followers and couldn’t lead a 2 ship to the end of the runway. They’ve been rewarded their entire careers for being non-confrontational, making only safe decisions, punishing downhill and protecting uphill, and most importantly, being loyal to the bad leaders above them.

That’s the real problem here, boss…. loyalty has become the new CURRENCY of your Air Force. More than integrity. More than excellence. More than tactical ability. More than taking care of the people in your charge. Absolute loyalty to your superiors is what gets you promoted. And in return for that loyalty, you get protection. Protection by your bosses for every stupid, unethical, illegal, hair-brained, vindictive decision you make that degrades morale, drives people out, and makes good leaders like myself write this letter.

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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post #6

Seems like the Air Force is trapped in a vicious underhiring/overhiring cycle. When I was in college I did Air Force ROTC. A lot of my peers had pilot slots; I was poised as a 17D (Cyber Ops). After graduating, my training date was put on hold virtually indefinitely. Eventually I got an email that the Air Force had commissioned way too many officers and were looking for people to voluntarily leave with no commitment/…

Canadian Air Force, but same issues with the overly stringent medical requirements. A minor form of scoliosis disqualified me from ever using an ejection seat. Although I wanted to fly transport planes, the training required the use of an aircraft with ejection seats.

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From my experience with pilots (family, NATO training base nearby), just the opportunity to flight high performance aircraft is a thrill. The name of the piece of land below you isn't as important as what aircraft you're in and what you're allowed to do with it.

And the spouses, naturally, are supposed to get along with the program.

I am guessing when you say "I do" you must have a pretty good idea of the person you are marrying.

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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This is interesting because the military pilots I know simply love to fly. It's an amazing opportunity to fly amazing kit, and to get tons and tons of airtime. The pay was never that great, and young people in their early 20's shouldn't mind deployments in the midwest or wherever. Also, it's a very aspirational job: "Jet Fighter Pilot". They make video games of that. Every little boy, at some point, considered wantin…

"and young people in their early 20's shouldn't mind deployments in the midwest or wherever." That to me sounds exactly like the kind of thing someone in their early twenties who is ready to head out and see the world would mind. Maybe I'm just projecting?

For many people, moving to NYC/LA is not the end-all.

That said, I think times are changing.

As we become more urban/suburban, the notion of living in the middle of the desert has less appeal, I should admit.

But for many folk, it's not a problem, or, it should be an adventure in itself.

As the commenter above states, it can get dry and boring, but I'd hope that the combination of maturity and 'sense of duty' help prevail over that.

Maybe the entire US Army / Forces should re-oriented how they move people around. Maybe they should try to have multifaceted bases instead of having to move people around constantly. Maybe 1 year long deployments can be broken up with bits of vacation and rest (that might have operational benefits as well).

Maybe they should beef up their bases near urban areas.

Toronto had a massive airport sized base, they closed it and it's now civilian. They should have kept it, it was big enough for a lot of kinds of training, and it could have allowed way more forces people to be in Toronto, the big city of Canada.

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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> A recent RAND study found the cost of training a basic qualified fighter pilot ranges from $5.6 million for an F-16 pilot to $10.9 million for an F-22 pilot.

Those numbers seem outrageous to me. Why does it cost so much? Are there frequent plane crashes?

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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post #13

country doesn't need that many pilots if it doesn't wage endless wars, though.

how else would we go into deeper debt? the budget deficit and debt is not going to grow on it's own.

Sure it will - that's the joy of compound interest :)

Re: New study shows grim outlook for future of Air Force pilot shortage

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post #6

Seems like the Air Force is trapped in a vicious underhiring/overhiring cycle. When I was in college I did Air Force ROTC. A lot of my peers had pilot slots; I was poised as a 17D (Cyber Ops). After graduating, my training date was put on hold virtually indefinitely. Eventually I got an email that the Air Force had commissioned way too many officers and were looking for people to voluntarily leave with no commitment/…

Yes, this has been a thing forever. (Former 33S/17D here) I went through two separate instances of reductions in force (aka "force shaping") - 2006 and 2010 - but there were others as well. (I chose to separate in 2010) They believed they brought too many officers on board in the 2001-2004 timeframe and were looking to trim down, especially because of budget cuts. I remember hearing about your situation as well (letting ROTC accessions off the hook). Yet the USAF periodically seems to cycle through "we have too many"/"we are way short" phases and this has now come back to bite them for their most critical asset, pilots. (Cyber retention is an issue as well - how do you keep them from getting out and working as contractors? The incentives don't line up)
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