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Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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Re: Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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Yes, your average rabbit can outrun Usain Bolt and an elephant can out deadlift the mountain. But we are also king-of-the-hill when it comes to hand-eye coordination and communication/teamwork which are essential components of many sports.

Re: Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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The author omitted that humans are the best animals at throwing.

Eg, http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140225-human-vs-animal-who... .

As such, the headline is an incorrect generalization of converting "humans are good at long-distance running" into "long-distance running is the only sport ability that humans are better at than other animals."

No animal can throw a spear, or even a rock, more accurately than a human.

I also object to the hand-waving about dogs. Long distance sled dogs average 8 miles an hour over the 1,100-mile Iditarod race." For shorter distances, sled dogs may average 10 to 14 miles per hour during the course of a day of mushing" says https://animals.mom.me/how-fast-can-dogs-run-in-dog-sled-rac... .

The objection in the article is that they are "forced to by humans."

However, the comparison with wolves and hyenas refer to the typical distance. The relevant comparison should therefore be to typical human travel distances, which is also in the 10-20km range for hunter-gather humans, as I recall.

Humans in a marathon are doing so because they want to. Thus, the third difference is that humans organize sporting events, which is not something that other animals do.

Re: Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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Humans aren't the best living creatures at something, so doing it competitively or watching others do so is absurd? I don't believe that follows.

Only the most anti-social people on Earth would recommend we not have Special Olympics for handicapped persons to compete, improve themselves, feel good about the effort they put in and the results, etc. They're obviously not the greatest athletes in the world, but that does not detract from their efforts at all. I admit this is top of mind because of recent federal funding controversies.

Men's divisions generally have better numbers than women's divisions to my limited knowledge (I assume there are exceptions) but that doesn't detract from our enjoyment of women's divisions in the Olympics, nor does it detract from the accomplishments of great female Olympians.

Carried to it's natural conclusion, why does anyone watch lesser league play, like the minor leagues? Maybe because sports is about something more than proving you're the greatest at performing that task among all life forms on Earth.

(I hope my use of these groups of athletes to make the point, isn't interpreted as detracting from any of them in any way.)

Basically, I'm going to assert that the implied claim (that I am reading into the article) that any sort of physical competition is absurd if there are other humans or other forms of life who do things better than you, is ridiculous on it's face. I will continue to watch Olympic swimming, without thinking to myself "ugh, a dolphin would tear these athletes up."

Re: Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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post #3

The author omitted that humans are the best animals at throwing. Eg, http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140225-human-vs-animal-who... . As such, the headline is an incorrect generalization of converting "humans are good at long-distance running" into "long-distance running is the only sport ability that humans are better at than other animals." No animal can throw a spear, or even a rock, more accurately than a human.…

The dogs can only outrun the human in arctic conditions, as the article mentions. In warmer weather the superior human cooling system wins longer term.

Re: Nearly every sport except long-distance running is fundamentally absurd

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post #3

The author omitted that humans are the best animals at throwing. Eg, http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140225-human-vs-animal-who... . As such, the headline is an incorrect generalization of converting "humans are good at long-distance running" into "long-distance running is the only sport ability that humans are better at than other animals." No animal can throw a spear, or even a rock, more accurately than a human.…

>No animal can throw a spear, or even a rock, more accurately than a human.

Not only accurately, but powerfully. Chimpanzees are much stronger than humans, but we can throw far harder thanks to different shoulder structures and muscle attachments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq6dCFCMGq4

Baseball (a sport I love dearly) has "fundamentally absurd" rules. You have to touch the base to be safe? If someone catches the ball in the air I have to go back to the base? but then I can run again? Stealing isn't against the rules? What on earth is a balk? Yet, since the sport revolves around throwing (even batting is throwing without letting go) and we're the best at throwing it's okay to play baseball? This article profoundly misunderstands sport and why competition is fun.

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