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Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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After watching a YouTube comedy video, where wasps describe themselves as murderous, but uselessness insects, I was thinking of researching wasps. This was an unexpected, but welcome read. So they are not only murderous, also incestuous, but not useless. At least this fig born species.

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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Considering figs not vegan because of this is insane, frankly. If that's the standard you want to apply(the food should not have any insect parts in it) then there will be nothing for you to eat. Zero. Any kind of grain will always contain finely ground insects, in minuscule quantities but you can be 100% certain they will be there.

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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Considering figs not vegan because of this is insane, frankly. If that's the standard you want to apply(the food should not have any insect parts in it) then there will be nothing for you to eat. Zero. Any kind of grain will always contain finely ground insects, in minuscule quantities but you can be 100% certain they will be there.

Yes, see e.g. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/i-hate-...

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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Considering figs not vegan because of this is insane, frankly. If that's the standard you want to apply(the food should not have any insect parts in it) then there will be nothing for you to eat. Zero. Any kind of grain will always contain finely ground insects, in minuscule quantities but you can be 100% certain they will be there.

From the friendly article:

Even the ones that do contain wasps can be considered vegan in my opinion. Veganism is about reducing harm and suffering, and these wasps aren’t being harmed. After all, no one is forcing the wasps to fertilize the figs. It’s part of their natural life cycle.

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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Considering figs not vegan because of this is insane, frankly. If that's the standard you want to apply(the food should not have any insect parts in it) then there will be nothing for you to eat. Zero. Any kind of grain will always contain finely ground insects, in minuscule quantities but you can be 100% certain they will be there.

Insects don't contain a CNS. Therefore, insects are vegan according to my defintion of vegan. Just like the champignons (mushrooms) and jellyfish and yeast are vegan.

I'm reminded about this beautiful documentary about the fig tree and her symbioses: The Queen Of Trees [1]. This is an official version. It was broadcasted on American TV, and this was ripped on BitTorrent. I can highly recommend watching this documentary. It teaches us how cruel yet intelligent nature (and evolution) can be. There are mutual benefits for different species who suffer or die in the process.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy86ak2fQJM

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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The article touches on this, but veganism is not about only eating plants - it's actually an ethical decision to avoid anything that harms animals. As such, figs are definitely vegan since the wasp is living its natural lifecycle.

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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post #7

The article touches on this, but veganism is not about only eating plants - it's actually an ethical decision to avoid anything that harms animals. As such, figs are definitely vegan since the wasp is living its natural lifecycle.

I understand what you mean, but I don't know any vegans who would eat a steak from a cow that had died of old age.

Re: Why aren't figs considered vegan?

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post #2

After watching a YouTube comedy video, where wasps describe themselves as murderous, but uselessness insects, I was thinking of researching wasps. This was an unexpected, but welcome read. So they are not only murderous, also incestuous, but not useless. At least this fig born species.

I had the same journey. If anyone is curious what we're talking about: https://youtu.be/08kMdn8L7Yw
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