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Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Mr. Dorsey accurately answered the Nazi question with: > “We have a situation right now where that term is used fairly loosely,” Dorsey said. “We just cannot take any one mention of that word accusing someone else as a factual indication of whether someone can be removed from the platform.”

Yeah that was the most impressive part. Gives me some hope for Twitter.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Interesting that the quoted “hard questions” about failure to remove Nazis is in direct opposition to the criticism Twitter has received on, for example, the second Joe Rogan interview. When I view what Dorsey is saying through the lens of the Rogan interview, I don’t see a push towards “algorithmic feeds” which you have already, but towards something where the users actually have more control over what they see, not…

From some comment Tim Pool made afterwards it appears that they got the impression Jack didn't really understand this was a major issue or the depths of dangerous stifling of speech they were participating in by potentially banning people who were just labeled "Nazi" because it's now a synonym for what you call someone you don't like or agree with.

It sounds like he's been looking into the issue and taking some executive action to stop the platform from being controlled by a single ideology group.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Not really. Once he had VCs attention he could do what he wanted as he wasn't exactly starting from zero.

Let me get this straight: You think that the hard part of creating a billion dollar company is getting attention from VCs?

You think it's not?

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Twitter is a great example of fairly talentless people with large egos somehow finding success, and mistakenly thinking it is due to their merits. If Dorsey was going to make a good social network, it would have happened 5-8 years ago. It’s a lot like Etsy - someone had drive, funding and concepts to make a project at the right time. However, they were not actually good at running a business and had no idea what the…

You know that Jack Dorsey also founded another successful company in Square, right? Pretty hard to argue that he lucked into both of those things.

I get your point, but seriously, go read Nick Bilton's book about the early history or Twitter. From the time of Odeo to Jack coming back, none of the people in charge of this company or the board had a consistent idea of what they were building, an appropriate roadmap to get there, or how to monetize effectively relative to other social networks. This happened for years.

Square is amazing, but a B2B, modern Point-of-Sales for SMBs is an entirely different beast than a free, B2C social network. Jack can be great at one, and terrible at the other, at the same time. These are not related.

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

This would suit me, actually. I use twitter almost exclusively to follow motor racing journalists. However, because of this, I have to dig through the same journalist's opinions on Brexit, FIFA, or Game of Thrones. It would suit me much better to be able to follow 'motorsport' as a topic instead of specific people.

aren't there tags already?

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Your point about Twitter's scale is fair, but I personally don't think the situation is hopeless, as you seem to suggest. If you have troll engagers in your feed, unfollow them. But right now I have no way of filtering replies...it's frustrating. No system is perfect but let's at least TRY to improve the status quo. If Twitter is consistently beta-testing new features to improve the quality of the UX/tweet replies, I…

But people like the drama even if reluctantly. It's like how you can /ignore someone on IRC and phpbb, but nobody actually does. They only threaten it. Hell yes they want to be clued in when you open your mouth so they can bark back! Humans love it. Look how many people waste their time responding to Donald Trump's tweets with things like "RESIGN!" They could unfollow Trump. But they choose to spend their precious ti…

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

What I really dislike is the spam in the notifications section. If someone likes my tweet, replies to it or retweets it, that's relevant. I don't however want to see a notification for something Tweeter deems interesting under other people you follow liked/retweed this as a notification.

Agreed. They have a useless option "see less of this", which has absolutely no effect.

My approach is now to unfollow any user when Twitter forces a notification from them. Maybe someone with some brains at Twitter will notice the clear pattern and fix their idiotic notifications.

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