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Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Zero specifics. Are we not catching on to Dorsey’s modus operandi yet? We should stop giving him a platform to speak in vague platitudes about “learning” and “rethinking” that make him sound deep. If there are no specific concrete answers, ignore him.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> One of the nice features in G+ was that the owner of a thread (the originator) could delete replies. I think that could work nicely in Twitter too. Interesting; I think adding this feature without changing anything else would severely exacerbate the already intolerable echo-chamber effect. Sure, trolling and abuse would lose visibility, but so would even slightly contrary opinions. Thought bubbles would shrink even…

Maybe. But does Twitter even experiment to see? Take Maggie Haberman, NYT reporter. Her Twitter replies are always a cesspool...what if she could lock down her tweets so only a whitelisted group of users (say people she follows) could comment? You'd still (hopefully) get contrary opinions but none of the dreck that dominates her feed now. I don't know if that's the answer. But I don't see Twitter even trying, just Do…

She can moderate her replies, but what if we want to see all the replies? What if we can choose our own moderators?

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> Serious question: has Twitter released any new, major features in the last 2-3 years? Double-length tweets is the most major thing that comes to mind for me.

Yes. You're right. But even that -- how innovative is that as a feature? I guess what I mean is: what innovative features have they introduced?

I think the features themselves aren't ground breaking on their own, but I'm willing to believe they do a lot of large scale semantic text analysis (eg for abuse prevention) which is innovative at least from an infrastructure standpoint and their size

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

I must be one of the few people who actually enjoy the "best" timeline.

I don't follow too many people so it just fills up my timeline with a little more stuff, otherwise it would be rather stale.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One of the nice features in G+ was that the owner of a thread (the originator) could delete replies. I think that could work nicely in Twitter too. Interesting; I think adding this feature without changing anything else would severely exacerbate the already intolerable echo-chamber effect. Sure, trolling and abuse would lose visibility, but so would even slightly contrary opinions. Thought bubbles would shrink even…

Maybe. But does Twitter even experiment to see? Take Maggie Haberman, NYT reporter. Her Twitter replies are always a cesspool...what if she could lock down her tweets so only a whitelisted group of users (say people she follows) could comment? You'd still (hopefully) get contrary opinions but none of the dreck that dominates her feed now. I don't know if that's the answer. But I don't see Twitter even trying, just Do…

What I call "Twitter Communities" is my answer to that problem. Invite only groups. The world can read but only group members can post to the group. Otherwise exactly like Twitter currently is. You can create a community and invite people to it and then when you post you either post to a community or global, everything still appears in your feed but you can filter down to just a certain community posts.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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> He suggested that the service works best as an “interest-based network,” where you log in and see content relevant to your interests, no matter who posted it Yeah, no thanks. Has anybody ever been happy with Twitter's attempts to force content from non-followed users into the feed? A couple of times a year they'll opt everybody back into whatever crappy experiment they're running ("hey, we'll put some posts to your…

What I really dislike is the spam in the notifications section. If someone likes my tweet, replies to it or retweets it, that's relevant. I don't however want to see a notification for something Tweeter deems interesting under other people you follow liked/retweed this as a notification.

Agreed. I wish that they would just mix those into the primary feed. I keep using the "See less often" option, but the "Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your experience better." message that I get in response almost feels like a taunt at this point.

I want to turn them off completely.

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

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Organizations will eventually realize they can stand up their own social infrastructure (see ActivityPub). It'll be interesting to see how Jack Dorsey reacts to that. Edit: if anyone happening to read this works for Twitter or has the capability to pass a message to @jack, here's a free idea for a pivot to your business model: Offer hosted ActivityPub federation utilizing your existing Twitter platform. In other word…

ActivityPub doesn’t seem that mature as a framework yet. I myself got lost in the documentation.

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) considers ActivityPub mature enough to be a "Recommendation" in its standardization process:

https://www.w3.org/standards/faq#std

https://www.w3.org/blog/news/archives/6785

Re: Jack Dorsey says it’s time to rethink the fundamental dynamics of Twitter

#120

"Interest-based" is basically what Reddit does well. If you're reading the accordion subreddit and some users there are also interested in politics or crypto or whatever, you're not going to see their other stuff. (On the other hand, you also don't learn about their other interests.) On Twitter, I follow people who post good stuff sometimes, but they also post other stuff that's irrelevant. Worse, I see stuff they "l…

They need to combine interest and people. I want to follow or hide hashtags by people.

I want to follow science person’s science tweets and hide science person’s politics tweets.

You can force people to tag their tweets by letting us only follow their tags.

Science person’s profile can show top followed tags of Science person.

#science followed by 100

#politics followed by 5

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