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Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by ikeyany »

coupdejarnac wrote: post #163
puranjay wrote: post #123

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I have never seen a more incompetent redesign in my life, especially for a "unicorn". That new redesign completely falls apart on Chrome on my mobile (a OnePlus 5T). Comment threads get squished together so much that by the 5th comment in a thread, all words are basically vertically arranged. If I switch to "desktop site" on Chrome, any text I enter gets automatically erased after hitting a certain number of characte…

I'm pretty sure the mobile website is designed to be as awful as possible to force users to use the mobile app.

It's very effective. It's how Facebook forced all of its users to use the app.

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by cheerlessbog »

mcguire wrote: post #138
ebg13 wrote: post #120

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To your second point, my assumption as a non-pilot is that a symmetrically balanced glide is more controllable than lopsided thrust that could put you into a spin?

Loss of one engine at low speed will leave a twin uncontrollable. See Vmc ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_speeds?wprov=sfla1 ).

If you promptly shut off the other engine, does it become equivalent to single engine failure?

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by whamlastxmas »

dgritsko wrote: post #160
cesarb wrote: post #47

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> Reddit doesn't make it easy to find what they replied to. The trick is to add ?context=3 to the end of the URL: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/bdfqm4/the_real_rea... (or for the better "old" interface: https://old.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/bdfqm4/the_real_rea... )

I use the "Old Reddit Redirect" Chrome extension to automatically switch to old.reddit.com. It's kind of unbelievable how much worse the new site layout is by almost any metric (usability, performance, etc.). https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

I suspect reddit is going the way of Digg

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by pornel »

Pigo wrote: post #125

I contracted with a branch of Lockheed. While I couldn't/shouldn't talk about any of the technology involved, I can attest to the culture I witnessed. I always assumed it was horrible because of the government affiliation. But I think that mostly affected their focus, in that most of the branch was dedicated to wasting money so they could ask for more money. However, the culture itself was stagnate by design. Most of…

How come we end up with ineffective duopolies? Why isn't market competition finding a way around these failing companies?

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by arbitrage »

treis wrote: post #112
ilogik wrote: post #37

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> Original MCAS system used only 1 AOA sensor and switched back and forth between the two after every flight. Who the fuck thought that was a good idea??? Let's make it 10x more difficult to detect that there is a problem.

A busted AOA sensor is going to set off a whole bunch of alarms since it's used in air speed and stall calculations. It's not something that is going to be missed with or without MCAS.

Unreliable hardware fails unreliably. It's entirely possible to have all your checks in place, and still not be able to detect that the sensor is faulty.

Independent comparable sensor input is invaluable and irreplaceable.

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by corn_dog »

adrianN wrote: post #39
cm2187 wrote: post #29

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But modern firepower between two nuclear nations only requires a few nuclear facilities, not the sort of industrial complex that made the difference in ww2. Good intentions of not using nukes don't really matter, as the conflict would invariably escalate as one of the parties takes over. Which is why this noise of direct war between US and Russia or US and China isn't really credible. A supply chain war is more credi…

There are more than a billion people in China, most of which don't have a particularly great standard of living. The domestic market in China is massive and has huge potential for growth. I think China would be fine without the rest of the world.

Didn't they already try that?

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by jeltz »

PaulHoule wrote: post #167
andjd wrote: post #155

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>then Boeing nearly killed it by offering airlines a 70% discount on the 737 MAX. Actually, Boeing lobbied/sued to get punitive tariffs levied on the Bombardier CSeries. While they ultimately lost the case, while it was pending, Bombardier entered an agreement with Airbus to finish assembly of the planes for American customers as a US-based Airbus factory as a way to get around the tariffs. https://en.wikipedia.org/w…

You're right -- but Boeing provoked Bombardier into "dumping" its aircraft by offering that 70% discount!

Do you have any links? Because if true that was a clever tactic, dump your own products to force the competitor to price dump too and then sue them for price dumping.

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by batbomb »

PaulHoule wrote: post #101
ozmaverick72 wrote: post #31

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The software fixes as described sound sensible and it's hard to believe they were not in the original design. Unfortunately I don't see how these changes will allow them to keep a common type rating with the 737 NG. After the updated MCAS has made its one shot trim adjustment you will now be flying an aircraft with different handling characteristics if you keep increasing the angle of attack into the stall. Surely th…

Having a new type rating is a fair punishment, I think, for Boeing and the airlines who have been stringing along this obsolete airliner for way too long. Note the 737 MAX was rushed out not just to fight the A320neo but also to counter this kind of jet: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A220 which is cheaper to run than the 737 MAX but also has much better passenger comfort than the 737. I was in the similar http…

The E175 is even better than a 787 in 9 seat configuration. It’s a superior experience in economy, and I hope every 737 and CRJ is replaced by it.

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by ndmrcf »

koolba wrote: post #52

> To this day, I refuse to fly on a 787. I'm sure that the Dreamliners that came off the assembly line after about a year or so were fine but there's that first year of production that, as far as I'm concerned, are ticking time bombs. I talked to many engineers who had worked on that program to know just how badly they rushed that initial production. Ouch. Anybody know where to get a list of who’s operating the plane…

Slightly unrelated but I've built https://myplane.info/ to quickly check if my plane is still the same before the flight. AFAIK, in case of a plane change than the scheduled, we have right to get a full refund* with most of the airlines. I'm thinking about adding a notification feature on that.

*Edit: Upon my findings, full refund case above is not available with all airlines, but rebooking option being offered instead.

Re: “I worked at Boeing for about 1.5 years in the 2008-9 time period”

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Post by okmokmz »

I'm currently working at Boeing, and had a very similar experience to him getting onboarded as a contractor on a major project. Just as an example, I'm going to outline the steps it took to get me a proper badge

1. Filled out badge request form and gave it to my manager who gave it to the person who would be my manager at boeing

2. 4 months later have to refill out form because they lost it

3. 1.5 months later I receive badge, but it doesn't have the chip I require

4. Get told by manager to go back to badge office and get chip, but apparently the form was submitted by someone who actually isn't my manager but is listed as my manager and they selected "no chip" so they can't reissue until they get a new form

5. My manager submits new form requesting chip, go back to badge office and get told I can't get a chipped card because he isn't technically my manager so they need to change my assigned manager first

6. Actual manager attempts to contact the person boeing says is my manager multiple times, after about 3 weeks they hear back from them

7. Manager finally changed so he sends email to badge office saying that he is now my manager and I need the badge

8. Go back to badge office and they can't give me chipped badge because he submitted the form before he was my manager and the email isn't sufficient.

9. He submits new form, go to badge office and they finally give me chipped badge

And mind you, everyone is so lazy that it takes multiple days minimum for every communication with anyone. So essentially Boeing payed me for an extended amount of time where I couldn't really do anything because no one cared to get me what I needed to do my job. Also, that was only the first piece. I am still working on getting everything else I need, and it doesn't look like it's going to happen anytime soon.

Another thing I hate is everything costs a ton of money and is garbage. No free coffee, no free tea, no free snack, no free cups, no free stirring sticks, and the cafeteria food and options they do have are way over priced and worse than dog food. The majority of the staff are old, sad white men that don't seem to want to do anything.

Oh, and on top of everything the project is 100% in the cloud but the out of touch manager requires everyone to be onsite

By far the worst company I have ever had the displeasure of being contracted at. Can't wait to be done

edit: thought of another wonderful example, I once heard a member of the "security" team say that their job is to just say no to everything that comes their way

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