It doesn't seem there really are any rules or limits at Facebook.
Facebook documents show plans to sell access to user data discussed for years
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#22Please read this. This isn't just another routine news that Zuck lied and Facebook is evil. They had access to more than 4.000 previously unreleased documents. Democracy is at stake. Facebook and its subsidiaries are destroying our societies. The problem is global. Not because it is happening in a far away country you shouldn't care. You can already see the increase in Amazon deforestation due to Bolsonaro election i…
You can't blame Facebook for the rise of right wing leaders. It's been happening in US, Italy, Israel, Poland, Hungary, Phillipines and now Brazil and the trend will continue whilst those leaders offer strength, populism and can point to immigrants as the cause of society's problems.
> You can't blame Facebook for the rise of right wing leaders
Facebook absolutely bears some culpability in this, but they're not the only reason that this is happening. Facebook cannot successfully control the hateful toxicity of their platform, which is now global.
All along the way, Facebook has lied, concealed, and deflected as much blame and responsibility as they could. This is unacceptable.
Facebook launched internet.org to get the 3rd world online (and more specifically, facebook), and wound up cancelling the project after the UN blamed Facebook for failing to control toxic speech against the Rohingya, who were mass murdered and displaced as a result[0].
[0]: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/facebook-myanma...
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#24News: Zuckerberg is a thieving lying snake. Facebook is cancer. As long as these snakes don't go to prison, this will not stop/end.
This sort of personal vitriol will get you banned on HN regardless of whom you're attacking. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html, follow the rules, and make your points without stooping to that, regardless of how right you are or feel.
You may not owe better to Zuckerberg or Facebook, but you owe much better to this community if you want to keep posting here.
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#25If someone from the media is reading along here: it would be nice to mention every now and again that the "grumpy old progress hating nerds" have a pretty good track record at condemning fb/google. This entire branch of news that I would maybe call "dystopia gawking" just provokes a huge "told you so" in parts of the tech community, and that would be a good thing to keep in mind during the next gold rush.
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#26If someone from the media is reading along here: it would be nice to mention every now and again that the "grumpy old progress hating nerds" have a pretty good track record at condemning fb/google. This entire branch of news that I would maybe call "dystopia gawking" just provokes a huge "told you so" in parts of the tech community, and that would be a good thing to keep in mind during the next gold rush.
I wonder why people were so unwilling to accept Zuckerberg's own sentiment ("dumb fucks") about their data for years. It seems like that's basically the attitude at Facebook from the top down. Everything else is PR spin.
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#27If someone from the media is reading along here: it would be nice to mention every now and again that the "grumpy old progress hating nerds" have a pretty good track record at condemning fb/google. This entire branch of news that I would maybe call "dystopia gawking" just provokes a huge "told you so" in parts of the tech community, and that would be a good thing to keep in mind during the next gold rush.
I wonder why people were so unwilling to accept Zuckerberg's own sentiment ("dumb fucks") about their data for years. It seems like that's basically the attitude at Facebook from the top down. Everything else is PR spin.
“Dumb fucks” is more overplayed than “Google is going to shut down ”. It’s FUD. Zuckerberg said that when his tiny website was open to his classmates and a few others, and hasn’t been representative of how the company functions.
I seriously cant believe that it’s still a meme people use to justify their hate for Facebook.
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#28> “As we’ve said many times, Six4Three — creators of the Pikinis app — cherry picked these documents from years ago as part of a lawsuit to force Facebook to share information on friends of the app's users,” Paul Grewal, vice president and deputy general counsel at Facebook, said in a statement released by the company.
> “The set of documents, by design, tells only one side of the story and omits important context. ...”
Seems like an easy problem to solve. Release the documents that provide the "important context". Unless they're even more damning or don't exist...
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#29How many of the commenters here still use WhatsApp? Did you try switching you & friends to Signal?
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#30>Facebook gave Amazon extended access to user data because it was... partnering with the social network on the launch of its Fire smartphone.
So is this yet another case of the media being incapable of distinguishing between transferring of data to third parties and displaying data on devices as an agent of the user, i.e. for the purpose of providing an integrated facebook experience? Until the media shows itself to be capable of making that distinction, I can't take these articles seriously.