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That's what the "Heisinberg compensators" in star trek fix. I heard this phrase in an episode once, and decided to figure out how that could even work... What I came up with was the idea that the scanning stage doesn't need to gather exact data because it really doesn't matter. You just need to get averages, and then build up a model that matches the statistics... (you don't need to discover the exact energy and mome…
"Heisinberg compensators" it's a clever lie that La Forge uses to fool Moriarty on a chapter.
Travel through wormholes is possible, but slow
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governments can't keep secrets fallacy. they can. Manhattan. these days, you can just take people's phones.
The internet and prolific camera ownership wasn’t a thing back then.
What if there is a very big SSP, but secrecy is extremely important (natsec, earth security, competitive advantage, greed, power), and all kinds of measures at every stage were taken to preserve it? National security oaths, unacknowledged compartmentalized programs, with black budget funding, research done in underground facilities, memory erasure, permanent off-planet postings? To me that is conceivable. You would have two systems, a public system of earth government, and a parallel system devoted to preserving the SSP and off world colonies. I think it could be done. Couple that with a strong PR / propoganda / psyop / disinformation game to discredit leakers, mimic real disclosures in pop culture media, and spread fake narratives, and I think it's like "magic" as in the "art of deception". I think mass psychology could be effectively used to "plug any holes" that the system might have, and over time, with secrecy as an "equal first" priority, I believe they could succeed. Is that not concievable to you in some way, where do you get stuck?
So that's "big and hidden", but not too big to hide.
Secondly, I propose, "inventable but not publishable", as in, what if it's somewhat easy to invent the basic technologies (electrogravitics, zero point energy), but owing to secrecy and economic concerns, these tech have a high "activation energy hump" to get over to actually proliferate in the world? Combine patent suppression, raids on technology to seize and destroy it, intimidation and ensnarement of inventors, and I think you'd be able to keep a lid on it for probably about 100 years, which is what we've seen.
Another way to think about the second point is this, clandestine nuclear devices (dirty bombs or actual fusion/fission) should be possible to deploy for non-state actors, but it's never happened. Surely there's coordinated effort to suppress this tech and prevent it's creation. Now what if SSP tech was an even higher priority, and "approximately equally as difficult to invent / create", if world governments and corporations could prevent a nuclear terrorist, could they not prevent rogue proliferation of zero gravity or free energy tech, especially if they consider that more important?
Again, which part of these arguments is sticking for you? I'm fine if you don't want to engage, I know that even in 2019, there's still a lot of shame and fear attached to these topics, but I see that changing, a lot of whistleblowers, a lot of intelligent, well-researched youtubers (edge of wonder, secureteam10, bright insight), and officially sanctioned evidence (uss nimitz tictac video).
I mean, maybe the whole narrative is just a massive psyop or mass delusion, but there's likely something here that's plausible to you.
Re: Travel through wormholes is possible, but slow
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I'm not exactly sure which version of "If you can prove that all of those have to say the same thing...." you're arguing for. It doesn't scientifically matter what statements you can make about any number of mathematical constructs if none of those constructs make testable predictions. Remember, falsifiability is a necessary condition for a construct to be a valid scientific theory. OTOH, it does matter if you are ab…
Ah, I think we have a deep "philosophy of science" disagreement. Basically, it is not just "falsifiability", but also "probability" of being correct. Probability that can be informed by things like formal versions of Occam's razor (e.g. Kolmogorov complexity, Akaike information criterion, etc). Here are a few premises on which I based my statement (I will pick one particular venue of scientific research, so I will no…
The irony here is that, although I am a professional software engineer, the entirety of my post-secondary education is in mathematics. I did some research in graph theory when I was in grad school, so I am actually quite familiar with this notion of "phase transition" that you're referring to. But, I also don't consider mathematics to be a science, because I define "science" in the same way as Wikipedia: "...a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge in the form of testable explanations and predictions about the universe." There are many things mathematics can describe that are inherently unphysical, which, IMO, makes mathematics itself not a science, however excellent a tool for science it is. And, it's on this basis that I'd come at all of your points 1-4.
Regarding QG theories and their explanatory power, I would say that the fact that they have a handful of universally agreed upon predictions does not make any one of them correct in the least. The value in any one theory of QG is not in the areas where it agrees with other theories of QG; it's in where that theory disagrees with established theory in a way that we can see in a lab, a telescope, or an accelerator. What we're trusting here is the physical behavior of the universe, and we're hoping that it's correctly predicted by the mathematical construct that is the theory.
Re: Travel through wormholes is possible, but slow
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unnecessary. visual cloaking. are you watching objects in 5th gen FLIR? zero radar cross section. even USAF has acknowledged craft you can't trivially observe. your point is rubbish.
This way of talking (using very short nominal sentences, citing many more or less related next to one another) seems very common among conspiracy theorists. I genuinely wonder where that comes from and if it's a conscious choice or some memetic imitation.
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That's an interesting assertion... Why would shadows be able to move faster than light?
It's perfectly correct and does not contradict physics. Think about it in the opposite direction - say you have a perfect laser, with perfect pointing ability. You pick two planets that are far away from each other but at roughly the same distance from Earth, and make an angle of 10 degrees with it; it will take you a few seconds to "move" the laser 10 degrees and thus move the spot from one planet to the other - in…
Sure, this is correct, but I don't see how this describes anything traveling faster than light. The light spot itself is an effect of the light that's traveled to that point (at the speed of light). The spot "moving" is (physically) more of an illusion as the light now travels to an adjacent location.
As far as I understand it doesn't actually move
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"Discoveries" about the mathematical structure of these theories are actually incredibly important even if no current day experiment can conceivably test them. Special and general relativity were discoveries made in this way (at least to an extent), and now general relativity is important for the proper functioning of technology as "trivial and boring" as GPS. Even earlier in our history, much of thermodynamics was d…
They're incredibly important, but they shouldn't be touted as facts until there's some consensus that they are facts
Double-plus goodthink, comrade!
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> Because the distance to the singularity grows at the speed of light, doesn't our universe expand at the same speed?
As the sibling poster implies, not only are there black hole horizons, but we are ourselves inside of a cosmological horizon. Objects outside the horizon are impossible to see, and objects approaching it from the inside will redshift and disappear from view the same way they do when entering a black hole from the outside .
At least theoretically we should be able to receive signals from arbitrarily far away no matter the expansion of the universe. They'll be redshifted like hell though, as you say.
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> Mathematical theorems (especially no-go theorems, one of the most powerful tools in physics) are at least as much of a fact as an experimental measurement That's an overstatement. Measurements are more important than theory. We cannot form theories without measurements, and yes theories inform our measurements, but science always begins and moves forward with measurements.
General relativity, quantum computing, some parts of thermodynamics/information theory/statistical physics, some parts of quantum field theory, some parts of condensed matter physics are all things that started as purely mathematical statements. I am not trying to diminish the monumental importance of empirical measurements, but please do not diminish the importance of logical consistency and mathematical constraints…
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Nothing's moving. It's like if you ran a 100m but while you were running, they decided to make it a 200m. If you speed up, you can finish the race in the same amount of time. Light always finishes the race in the same amount of time from each observer's perspective. It can always speed up because it's massless, but you have mass and there is a limit to how much you can speed up. According to general relativity, an ob…
> It can always speed up because it's massless I'd suggest clarifying this statement because it certainly gave me the wrong impression…
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Based on the colloquia I watched by Lenny Susskind, the problem is that you can put something into a wormhole, but to get it out the other end, you have to carry the encoding you get to the other end of the wormhole to decode the output. Because the distance to the singularity grows at the speed of light, the length of the wormhole is essentially infinite. It is only the operator you get from putting the object into…
> the problem is that you can put something into a wormhole, but to get it out the other end, you have to carry the encoding you get to the other end of the wormhole to decode the output. That sounds a lot like how entangled particles can't be used to communicate faster than light. While you can make observations immediately, you can't turn them into useful information about the other end, at least not until you get…