It's really interesting that Google seems to be at times able to pull off wonderful UI design bordering on genius (Chrome, Google Maps) and at other times just barely able to be at par (most of Android with select exceptions). I guess this just reflects different teams within Google, but it's a shame they can't apply their best UI talent across all their products (and particularly, the products that most need it, lik…
Related: They're trying (sort of): http://code.google.com/closure/library/ Here's a talk once about their process: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=697KX4Ciiws#t=02m40s and a blog post: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/04/what-makes-design-goo... P.S. Anyone know an easy Maps API trick for setting zoom level to display each of the U.S. states (which vary dramatically in size)?
Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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I've been using vanilla Android for almost a year now. The more I use it the more I dislike it. By far my number one complaint is bugs. Some of them are so apparent and easily reproducible is simply inexcusable that they're still there (all reported btw). I haven't rooted my Nexus One, so I don't have that to blame either. It gets tiring to click the same message-contact shortcut and sometimes to be taken to the righ…
I couldn't find your bug report or patch anywhere. Do you think people can magically fix bugs you experience without you even telling them what the bug is? (I personally have never seen any of these issues. The main problem I have with Android is the culture of low-quality ad-supported apps, and sadly, that's something a bug report isn't going to fix.)
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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I've been using vanilla Android for almost a year now. The more I use it the more I dislike it. By far my number one complaint is bugs. Some of them are so apparent and easily reproducible is simply inexcusable that they're still there (all reported btw). I haven't rooted my Nexus One, so I don't have that to blame either. It gets tiring to click the same message-contact shortcut and sometimes to be taken to the righ…
I couldn't find your bug report or patch anywhere. Do you think people can magically fix bugs you experience without you even telling them what the bug is? (I personally have never seen any of these issues. The main problem I have with Android is the culture of low-quality ad-supported apps, and sadly, that's something a bug report isn't going to fix.)
One of the issues I mentioned is on the first page of bug reports: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6296&c...
Here's the contact shortcut one: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=10663&...
For the gallery crashing since I don't know exactly what causes it I can't point to a specific bug report, but there are over 100 unsolved issues with the gallery application.
I don't have time to search for the other bug reports, but they're there.
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
#84It's really interesting that Google seems to be at times able to pull off wonderful UI design bordering on genius (Chrome, Google Maps) and at other times just barely able to be at par (most of Android with select exceptions). I guess this just reflects different teams within Google, but it's a shame they can't apply their best UI talent across all their products (and particularly, the products that most need it, lik…
Google does an above average, and often good job, at actual usability challenges. But they are pretty universally bad at making things that people would consider beautiful. Chrome gets usability issues right. Things like their tab closing behavior, the almost total lack of dialogues, one click bookmarking, etc. are all really great. But Chrome is not a beautiful app. Its toolbar icons are fairly childish, its tabs ju…
That's an important distinction to make. Beautiful is not the same thing as UI. Many many people see something pretty and think that it therefore has great UI.
However UI is more than the colours (though that's important), it's things like discoverability, predicatability, etc.
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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I've been using vanilla Android for almost a year now. The more I use it the more I dislike it. By far my number one complaint is bugs. Some of them are so apparent and easily reproducible is simply inexcusable that they're still there (all reported btw). I haven't rooted my Nexus One, so I don't have that to blame either. It gets tiring to click the same message-contact shortcut and sometimes to be taken to the righ…
> The more I use it the more I dislike it. This applies to all technology I've used, ever.
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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I think you're just talking about the applications in a stock Nexus One, not the operating system itself (i.e. the UI, the services it provides, etc). If the apps are lousy it's one thing, but the system behaves quite predictably more often than not. And yes, the stock apps could do with a bit improvement, but you can always install another alternative app from the market. That's what it is for, isn't it?
In my experience that's a distinction iphone owners don't need to make.
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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You're assuming they didn't arrive at these settings for borders, weight, classes of label via A/B testing of various alternatives. Google has enough resources available that for something like this it could easily substitute brute-force testing for "best-practice" design (and there's a number of arguments why that might be the better choice, including the fact that design practice seems to evolve over time.)
Although A/B testing is very likely, how would you measure success/failure? "Person took x sec to see 'New York'" ? How do you measure that?
And I'm sure if you were a little more clever you could find ways to do a similar test on normal google maps users without them knowing it.
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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I came here to say the same thing. Modifying the maps from bing/yahoo to simulate the effects that google provided must have taken forever. Even doing something like adding an extra pixel or two of white background to 90ish cities would take me hours. Very well polished article.
Not to detract from the work he did (it's still not easy, and it's good work), but a lot of that could be programmatic---select all pixels that are near-black to extract the text, copy them to a separate layer, enlarge selection by 1.5 pixels, flood fill white, and then paste the original text on top of that. A certain amount of massaging is necessary, but it probably wouldn't be "hours" just for that. Also, apparent…
Re: Why Do Google Maps’s City Labels Seem So Readable?
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> But Chrome is not a beautiful app I guess it's totally subjective and therefore fairly meaningless, but I think Chrome is the most visually appealing of any browser right now. This is partly, I guess, because its primary virtue is minimalism, but the parts that are there are beautiful, I think.
Couldn't agree more. The tabs and buttons fit perfectly into my operating system ( http://i.imgur.com/DO5SQ.png reusing this image from a few threads back). I don't even use the "Use GTK+ Theme" option (though I do use system titlebar because it looks hot).