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Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#31

Post by Kye » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:50 PM UTC

zach43 wrote: post #15

Just wanted to say that i moved from twitter to mastodon sometime late last year amd couldn't be happier with it. Keybase integration is interesting to me, but not realky useful since i don't want to tie mastodon with my real life identity. the Fediverse as a whole has a very different 'feel' to it compared to Twitter. Twitter feels significantly more commercialized amd stressful...mastodon / pleroma feel a lot more…

Mastodon is great. snouts.online is one of several furry instances. We boop snoots instead of boosting toots, but it talks to other instances just fine.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#32

Post by yarrel » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:50 PM UTC

gtt wrote: post #6

I never understood keybase as a useful product. What do you use keybase for?

It was meant to be a better PGP web-of-trust replacement.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#33

Post by kstrauser » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 9:53 PM UTC

coldacid wrote: post #20

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #5

I wonder if the Mastodon community will pick up Keybase chat as the de facto chat option with this integration in place. Chat or private messaging has always been considered the weak link of the fediverse since it's easy for bad servers to mishandle "private" toots.

If you include in "bad servers" ones that censor and ostracise instances that offer more freedom to their users, yes.

You mean, ones that block spam farms and troll infestations? If so, that would leave a tiny little awful network. There's a reason that Mastodon is more pleasant than Twitter, and it's largely because its federation model penalizes both ban-happy and completely unmoderated peers.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#34

Post by Kye » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:01 PM UTC

Nadya wrote: post #19

gtt wrote: post #6

I never understood keybase as a useful product. What do you use keybase for?

Task: Send me a tweet on Twitter. Careful not to send it to any imposters. Challenge: Finding me on Twitter. For example, I am not @Nadya Extra Credit Challenge: Let's say I'm e-famous enough to have imposter accounts but not have a Twitter "verified" badge. Which Twitter account is the real me? And how do you know? Where Keybase comes in: On my HN profile itself you can find my signatures on Keybase. Keybase is not…

The obvious question is: "Isn't that what a domain is for?"

And the answer is a lot of the New Famous don't have domains to list canonical social media profiles on. They exist solely on silos like YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram with no way to connect to their fanbase without it.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#35

Post by eadmund » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:02 PM UTC

Nadya wrote: post #19

gtt wrote: post #6

I never understood keybase as a useful product. What do you use keybase for?

Task: Send me a tweet on Twitter. Careful not to send it to any imposters. Challenge: Finding me on Twitter. For example, I am not @Nadya Extra Credit Challenge: Let's say I'm e-famous enough to have imposter accounts but not have a Twitter "verified" badge. Which Twitter account is the real me? And how do you know? Where Keybase comes in: On my HN profile itself you can find my signatures on Keybase. Keybase is not…

> On my HN profile itself you can find my signatures on Keybase.

… or your HN account could just link straight to your Twitter account. I don't get what Keybase adds here.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#36

Post by aldoushuxley001 » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:02 PM UTC

Kye wrote: post #31

zach43 wrote: post #15

Just wanted to say that i moved from twitter to mastodon sometime late last year amd couldn't be happier with it. Keybase integration is interesting to me, but not realky useful since i don't want to tie mastodon with my real life identity. the Fediverse as a whole has a very different 'feel' to it compared to Twitter. Twitter feels significantly more commercialized amd stressful...mastodon / pleroma feel a lot more…

Mastodon is great. snouts.online is one of several furry instances. We boop snoots instead of boosting toots, but it talks to other instances just fine.

I understood atleast a couple of those words

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#37

Post by Kye » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:05 PM UTC

aldoushuxley001 wrote: post #36

Kye wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mastodon is great. snouts.online is one of several furry instances. We boop snoots instead of boosting toots, but it talks to other instances just fine.

I understood atleast a couple of those words

Translation: every weird niche interest can have its own server for its community with its own rules, culture, and user experience while still communicating with other servers.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#38

Post by bloopernova » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:15 PM UTC

Keybase is certainly interesting. Is it possible to link up to your stackoverflow identity yet?

How are people using Keybase right now? I added several of my accounts but I'm especially interested in the GPG encryption/signing.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#39

Post by chrisdirkis » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

eadmund wrote: post #35

Nadya wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Task: Send me a tweet on Twitter. Careful not to send it to any imposters. Challenge: Finding me on Twitter. For example, I am not @Nadya Extra Credit Challenge: Let's say I'm e-famous enough to have imposter accounts but not have a Twitter "verified" badge. Which Twitter account is the real me? And how do you know? Where Keybase comes in: On my HN profile itself you can find my signatures on Keybase. Keybase is not…

> On my HN profile itself you can find my signatures on Keybase. … or your HN account could just link straight to your Twitter account. I don't get what Keybase adds here.

If everything links to everything, that's an n^2 problem (and hard to coordinate actors to do). If everything just links to one service, that's n or 2n at most.

Also, I can write the name of any twitter account in my HN profile. I can only link _my_ twitter account to a keybase account I own.

Re: Mastodon and Keybase

#40

Post by giggles_giggles » Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 10:22 PM UTC

0xb100db1ade wrote: post #17

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #5

I wonder if the Mastodon community will pick up Keybase chat as the de facto chat option with this integration in place. Chat or private messaging has always been considered the weak link of the fediverse since it's easy for bad servers to mishandle "private" toots.

I wish that Keybase could work with the Signal team on something. Signal has a lot of experience in UI [1] and security, and Keybase had the identity proofs. I'd love to see them work together rather than compete. [1] Signal UI used to be horrible but as of the past few months it's improved a ton! It's now my preferred SMS client.

>Signal UI used to be horrible but as of the past few months it's improved a ton!

That's funny, I've had the opposite experience. Once I got everyone I know to start using it and was completely locked-in, I started having all kinds of weird issues.

My favorite is when my phone has been off awhile. After I turn it back on, I get a notification for every message I sent/received on another device while it was off. Usually takes about 30 minutes for it to fully sync, buzzing and/or producing popups for every message along the way. I have about a dozen equally frustrating issues I could, if I had the time, enumerate.

And of course because it's free, there's no real support. Signal has been a huge disappointment for me. I'm preparing to move back to regular SMS, but now I have to untangle all of the users like my mother that I convinced to use Signal. Caveat emptor!