Another hit piece by NYTimes against Facebook. Personally, sharing good news across Facebook/Instagram and receiving acknowledgements has been a very satisfying experience for me. More than that, as a consumer of Facebook, I also really appreciate when my friends post their achievements/milestones as it lets me stay up to date with what is going on in their lives. Facebook allows you to scale the sharing of your happ…
FB’s business model is essentially putting ads next to your family photos.
Facebook Is Stealing Your Family’s Joy
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> If you don’t like Facebook, don’t use it. I don't use it. It doesn't prevent them from using me anyway though. They're happy asking my friends for their contacts list (so they can get my phone number) and setting cookies through their "Like" buttons embedded everywhere without ever asking for my permission. The only way to stop that company is to kill it, and these "ridiculous" pieces might very well be the only so…
So you blame fb, instead of your friends, for your friends handing over your phone number to an advertising company? It might make sense to stop giving your phone number out to your friends. At some point, lets say you have 100 friends, and ONE gives out your number. That's it, its out there. Your phone number is either de facto public information, or you cant really give it out to anybody, except maybe banks for ver…
Also I don’t have a problem with one friend accidentally giving away my number to one bad guy. I have a problem with a toxic company using that phone number to build a graph of my relationships and my friends’.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you don’t like Facebook, don’t use it. I don't use it. It doesn't prevent them from using me anyway though. They're happy asking my friends for their contacts list (so they can get my phone number) and setting cookies through their "Like" buttons embedded everywhere without ever asking for my permission. The only way to stop that company is to kill it, and these "ridiculous" pieces might very well be the only so…
In what way are you being used by FB in ways that it affect you physically. Sounds like its more in principle you are complaining?
They are putting me at risk in order to grow their cancerous business, but when shit hits the fan I will be the one dealing with the consequences, not them (they will just issue their fake apology as usual and carry on).
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So you blame fb, instead of your friends, for your friends handing over your phone number to an advertising company? It might make sense to stop giving your phone number out to your friends. At some point, lets say you have 100 friends, and ONE gives out your number. That's it, its out there. Your phone number is either de facto public information, or you cant really give it out to anybody, except maybe banks for ver…
When a crazy sociopath manipulates my friends in order to achieve what he wants I’d blame the sociopath and not my friends. If you’re not tech-savvy and don’t know anything about Facebook it’s reasonable to think they will actually keep those contacts private and only use them for what they said they would (aka recommend you people that are in your contacts but you haven’t yet added on FB). Also I don’t have a proble…
Seems like being mad you got bacon from a bacon salesman, screaming that you were told it would be pork.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you blame fb, instead of your friends, for your friends handing over your phone number to an advertising company? It might make sense to stop giving your phone number out to your friends. At some point, lets say you have 100 friends, and ONE gives out your number. That's it, its out there. Your phone number is either de facto public information, or you cant really give it out to anybody, except maybe banks for ver…
Facebook doesn't limit itself to phone numbers. They're just a convenient data point to pin everything else they've gathered to your name. And the thing people take offense in isn't the phone number directory... It's everything else that they not only know about, but also sell to unrelated third parties.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
When a crazy sociopath manipulates my friends in order to achieve what he wants I’d blame the sociopath and not my friends. If you’re not tech-savvy and don’t know anything about Facebook it’s reasonable to think they will actually keep those contacts private and only use them for what they said they would (aka recommend you people that are in your contacts but you haven’t yet added on FB). Also I don’t have a proble…
So you have a problem with them using the contacts in the literal way they said they would, to build a graph to suggest friends to people. Seems like being mad you got bacon from a bacon salesman, screaming that you were told it would be pork.
It's another thing to use my number as a means to link otherwise unrelated people especially if I am not a Facebook user myself.
Oh and finally it's another thing to use the number for ads.
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So you have a problem with them using the contacts in the literal way they said they would, to build a graph to suggest friends to people. Seems like being mad you got bacon from a bacon salesman, screaming that you were told it would be pork.
It's one thing to recommend me if I provided my number to Facebook. It's another thing to use my number as a means to link otherwise unrelated people especially if I am not a Facebook user myself. Oh and finally it's another thing to use the number for ads.
People just dont realize that they would store a phone number they dont have a profile for yet.
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In what way are you being used by FB in ways that it affect you physically. Sounds like its more in principle you are complaining?
The data they are collecting about me & my friends is a growing liability. It's a goldmine of highly personal data that can be used for malicious purposes when it finally leaks. They are putting me at risk in order to grow their cancerous business, but when shit hits the fan I will be the one dealing with the consequences, not them (they will just issue their fake apology as usual and carry on).
Your ISP tracks you, Ycombinator tracks you, every site out there that have cookies track you. Everyone can potentially missuse that data they don't have to be Facebook for that.
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The data they are collecting about me & my friends is a growing liability. It's a goldmine of highly personal data that can be used for malicious purposes when it finally leaks. They are putting me at risk in order to grow their cancerous business, but when shit hits the fan I will be the one dealing with the consequences, not them (they will just issue their fake apology as usual and carry on).
But you haven't given a concrete example of you being actually affected by this so I will assume it's more an on principle argument rather than you actually pointing to any wrongdoing. Your ISP tracks you, Ycombinator tracks you, every site out there that have cookies track you. Everyone can potentially missuse that data they don't have to be Facebook for that.
My ISP should not be tracking me (I’m sure some of them are scummy enough to do so anyway). Ycombinator does not track me outside of their own website. Everyone does not have stupid “like” buttons scattered across the entire web for the sole purpose of tracking people outside of their own website.