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Who's Behind Huawei?

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Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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When AT&T has so willingly handed over call data to the U.S. intelligence agencies for decades, even assisting in the analysis of said data, I have to question the assault on Huawei by U.S. media.

While both are reprehensible behavior, supply information to the US government and being fundamentally linked with the Chinese Communist government aren't even close. It's like comparing a school yard bully to a serial killer. Political dissenters don't disappear when AT&T shares information with the FBI. We really need to question how so many Westerners have gotten to a point that they some how see an equivalence.

America have committed plenty of atrocities. Just because you're on their side doesn't make them blameless.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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When AT&T has so willingly handed over call data to the U.S. intelligence agencies for decades, even assisting in the analysis of said data, I have to question the assault on Huawei by U.S. media.

If you equate AT&T's said practices with Huawei's practices, then you just answered your own question. The Chinese Communist Party is not friend of freedom, nor of free journalism.

Regarding the "free journalism": we will see if the US lives up to the First Amendment in the Julian Assange case... 25 years ago the US was supporter of "free journalism", but today things are changing rapidly...

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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USA is right to fear them. Spying issues aside (for a second) here is this giant company that easily take over the worldwide smartphone market. The very things USA has controlled since Jobs and Gates started. Oh, and they can spy on everyone.

For the "You too" crowd: Yes, NSA spies on whatever they can. But you do not see Apple or Google doing what NSA wants. I have a feeling that Huawei doesn't have the option of going to Federal Court where highly educated and appointed-for-life judges decide. impartially.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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When AT&T has so willingly handed over call data to the U.S. intelligence agencies for decades, even assisting in the analysis of said data, I have to question the assault on Huawei by U.S. media.

If you equate AT&T's said practices with Huawei's practices, then you just answered your own question. The Chinese Communist Party is not friend of freedom, nor of free journalism.

I agree that we can't really compare the human rights violations of US vs the ones of China. The criticism here is that we can't just has "handles its data to the local government" as a criterion to judge a company unacceptable as the practice is, sadly, common over the globe.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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I have personally decided to avoid buying 'Made in China' products whenever it's possible. It's hard, but I don't want to support their work conditions or predatory geoeconomics in any way.

Good luck with that. Most electronics contains components, that were made in China.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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I have personally decided to avoid buying 'Made in China' products whenever it's possible. It's hard, but I don't want to support their work conditions or predatory geoeconomics in any way.

What kind of computer are you posting from?

What is your point ? even if its impossible to do it 100%, at least they tried. Its their choice.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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When AT&T has so willingly handed over call data to the U.S. intelligence agencies for decades, even assisting in the analysis of said data, I have to question the assault on Huawei by U.S. media.

If you equate AT&T's said practices with Huawei's practices, then you just answered your own question. The Chinese Communist Party is not friend of freedom, nor of free journalism.

I do. You have two governments that tell respective large telecoms to “hand it over or else”. Back doors, trade secrets, what have you. The rest seems like splitting hairs. Private communication and the separation of the pipe/hardware vendor and the government has become an illusion in both instances.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While both are reprehensible behavior, supply information to the US government and being fundamentally linked with the Chinese Communist government aren't even close. It's like comparing a school yard bully to a serial killer. Political dissenters don't disappear when AT&T shares information with the FBI. We really need to question how so many Westerners have gotten to a point that they some how see an equivalence.

America have committed plenty of atrocities. Just because you're on their side doesn't make them blameless.

Where did I say they were blameless? There are varying degrees of bad behavior, and while the US Government has a whole host of actions they can be validly criticized for, they're not even in the same ball park as the PRC.

As I said, we really need to consider how so many Westerners have become so blind to that fact that this weak whataboutism can we depended on when any mention of China is made.

Re: Who's Behind Huawei?

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When AT&T has so willingly handed over call data to the U.S. intelligence agencies for decades, even assisting in the analysis of said data, I have to question the assault on Huawei by U.S. media.

The argument in this article is not that Huawei is handing over data, or anything else AT&T has been accused of. It's that Huawei is secretly a front for the Chinese government.
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