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Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by snvzz » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:42 AM UTC

OrgNet wrote: post #25

surfsvammel wrote: post #11

I share the feeling. I too am in my mid-thirties, still know my ICQ number by heart (8 digits by the way), was on IRC and used Facebook in the early days. Nowadays I often wonder if my sentimental feeling about the social networks of yesterday is just a function of me getting old. The world changes. It is probably neither better nor worse. It’s just different.

I had a 6 digit ICQ number and I'm about the same age... someone deleted my account using my unlocked computer and I was never able to get it back...

>someone deleted my account using my unlocked computer

Strikes me as insane that they'd allow account deletion without entering password for confirmation.

Also, what an asshole, whoever did that to you.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by skocznymroczny » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:48 AM UTC

jugg1es wrote: post #66

This article reminds me of a complaint I've had about online gaming. I'm 36 and I remember when all online FPS games were played on centralized servers. If you logged on at the same time of day, you would see the same players you saw yesterday. Over time, you would develop relationships with those people and perhaps you would eventually meet them in real life. I have 2-3 very good real-life friends that I originally…

This a big draw that old style MMOs like vanilla World of Warcraft had. Due to the way leveling works in this game, it takes a lot of time and unless you follow a guide, you will do a lot of backtracking. Along the way you will encounter players doing the same leveling that you do. While some will jump ahead because they play much more, for the most part, you stay on the adventure with the same kind of people, around your level. After a while, you'll start grouping with them for some harder quests. By the time you hit max level, you already have a group of friends you can play with that you've made throughout your adventure.

It's not the case with newer MMOs. Nowadays most MMOs try to rush you through the leveling considering it necessary evil, and any group content you can queue for and form a group with strangers. Once you finish the content, the group disbands and you can find another set of strangers, but it's not the same.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by charliebrownau » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:55 AM UTC

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Re: I miss Facebook

#104

Post by jv22222 » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:56 AM UTC

jugg1es wrote: post #66

This article reminds me of a complaint I've had about online gaming. I'm 36 and I remember when all online FPS games were played on centralized servers. If you logged on at the same time of day, you would see the same players you saw yesterday. Over time, you would develop relationships with those people and perhaps you would eventually meet them in real life. I have 2-3 very good real-life friends that I originally…

> I feel sorry for kids growing up right now that are missing out on finding your own 'people' online.

A lot of kids are connecting via games like Roblox and Minecraft. A case in point is EthanGamer who has an expanding network of friends that all met up that way:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1o4Ct4ca7uzqohH0xdaZpQ

I've seen a few other gamer kids with similar networks.

FYI I don't follow those kids myself, it's my 5yo that loves watching these older kids play Roblox and Minecraft. It's on in the background sometimes and I noticed the networks being created.

Anyway, I think the current gen of kids are probably doing just fine creating their friend groups! Not sure about older teens though.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by charliebrownau » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 6:56 AM UTC

Gday Platforms that censor speech List :-

* Facebook

* Twitter

* Google & Youtube

* TUMBLR

* Pateron

* Stripe

* Paypal

* Twitch

* Spotify

* Apple

* pin interest

* LinkedIn

* Mailchimp

* Wordpress

* mastodon

* azure

* Mastercard

* Godaddy

* MEDIUM

* Shopify

* Cloudflare

* pusher

* WIKI

* Reddit

* teespring

* Slack

* coinbase

* GOFUNDME

* VISA

* Square

* Bitpay

* ROKU

* Netflix

* Indiegogo

* Disqus

* VIMEO

Regards, Charliebrowau

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by rock_artist » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 7:13 AM UTC

I'm Facebook free for more than 10years. It's hard, as a lot of information is considered as delivered once it's on Facebook (like community updates on my neighborhood).

But anything becomes nostalgic. I still remember my own BBS joining fidonet so it was able to provide email service (once a night from a Hub BBS). I still remember the ping-pong virus. Or even Google not being evil.

I guess in a few years will see a post "I miss iPhone" :)

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by yason » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 7:24 AM UTC

mszcz wrote: post #99

hateful wrote: post #93

This article reminded me of what Facebook was and the fact that I did actually like it when I first joined. The major complaint I see is usually centered around politics. But for me, I never saw any of that. The main reason I've stopped using it is simple: I used Facebook as a tool to see what people were doing in a passive way that I wouldn't have otherwise. But now the feeds are geared towards the advertisers, not…

Aside from the stuff mentioned everywhere else, my biggest complain was ephemeral nature of the feed. If I saw something interesting I had to act on it at that percise moment or never ever see it again. No scrolling, no page reloads, no "I'll do it in a sec". Once something was out of my sight the Facebook fold seemed to devour it forever ;p If I recall correctly the feed wasn't always like this, but once it became l…

Yes, this is frustrating, especially with the "Top stories" feed which seems to quite randomly choose something interesting occasionally and when you go see it again it's buried by something else.

The "Most recent" feed at least tries to stay coherent for a while I still see posts that I can't find later unless I spotted who shared it and where, and then go look that up — and I still might not find it.

However, the "Most recent" feed is also quite short: you can easily hit the bottom which makes you realise that you probably saw 1% of all the "most recent" posts. This isn't the only case, though.

I have a custom list that includes all of my friends so that I could see their posts, hopefully most if not all of them. Guess what? I only get maybe ~20 posts until that list runs out of items.

So, it seems that it's quite impossible to get to see what's happening in your friends' lives by using a Facebook view into their posts. And this is why I started using Facebook in the first place.

It wouldn't be technically impossible to dig up the last 7 days of posts from the couple of hundred people I have as friends and sort them based on likes and amount of commentary. I could then consume that list to the extent I want. But that wouldn't be good business, apparently.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 7:25 AM UTC

system16 wrote: post #73

charleshan wrote: post #52

This really hits home. So what ruined Facebook? The Wall was replaced by an algorithm which sunk original content below a flood of ads, fake news, and externally shared content "you might like". We stopped seeing original content. Then, people stopped sharing personal stuff, as nobody interacted with it.

I quit Facebook many years ago, but one of the reasons I stopped engaging with it was after they started creepily sharing interactions made on the site. Seeing "Pam liked this photo" or "Dave commented on this post" in my feed - almost certainly without them knowing I was seeing it - made me very hesitant to interact with the site at all. I'm sure they have a ton of metrics proving it increases engagement for the maj…

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Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by agumonkey » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 7:39 AM UTC

rorykoehler wrote: post #83

agumonkey wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it part of the usual pattern of .. maybe everything ? Things catch wind, and they try to leverage and survive long term .. changing their "core" value in the process, much to the despair of users. Twitter did change a lot too .. you could say the same for artists also.

It's not about survival. These companies are making billions to satisfy the unquenchable thirst for profit of their investors.

oversurvival may I say ?

I think in survival there's no real good measure of balance. If you don't overdo it, you're wasting "meals" and giving them to competitors. I don't condone it, but it seems a natural law of systems.

Re: I miss Facebook

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Post by chipx86 » Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 8:12 AM UTC

OrgNet wrote: post #25

surfsvammel wrote: post #11

I share the feeling. I too am in my mid-thirties, still know my ICQ number by heart (8 digits by the way), was on IRC and used Facebook in the early days. Nowadays I often wonder if my sentimental feeling about the social networks of yesterday is just a function of me getting old. The world changes. It is probably neither better nor worse. It’s just different.

I had a 6 digit ICQ number and I'm about the same age... someone deleted my account using my unlocked computer and I was never able to get it back...

Someone got mine (298387 -- I'll never forget) through a security flaw that they temporarily had. The attacker tried selling it back to me for $1000. Loved the low number, but didn't use it anymore outside of testing Gaim (used to be a developer on that), so.. RIP 298387.