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South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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I know you're probably joking, but for the sake of anybody reading this who may be consider composting: A healthy compost doesn't smell bad (I honestly kind of like the smell) and doesn't smell strongly either, so neighbors won't mind or even know it's there. I compost in my small patio; there's table and chairs just a couple feet from the composter and it hasn't been a problem.

Good compost does not smell but does attract (in NA) the likes of racoons and black bears and some people vocally don't like that.

It also attracts lots of insects. While it's ok in general, you probably don't want a farm of them right next to where you sit/eat.

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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I believe in China it was common to site toilets over pig stys. Some loop closing isn't a very good idea. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_toilet

About 20 years ago I stayed for two weeks on a rural rice farm in Goa. The toilets fed directly into the pig sty. Very directly down a short chute add though a hole. An eager pig snout poked through the hole could make contact. Never before nor never again have I been so startled.

But... why...

Pigs don’t eat human faeces...

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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About 20 years ago I stayed for two weeks on a rural rice farm in Goa. The toilets fed directly into the pig sty. Very directly down a short chute add though a hole. An eager pig snout poked through the hole could make contact. Never before nor never again have I been so startled.

But... why... Pigs don’t eat human faeces...

I have seen first hand that they do, not that I wish I hadn't.

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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Food used on farms decomposes directly into the atmosphere, including methane. Food sent to landfill decomposes poorly with an increased methane output, but some of the methane can be captured to generate electricity.

I'm not qualified at all to analyze this properly. The former method makes use of food to displace use of fossil fuels in farming. The latter displaces use of fossil fuels for electricity generation.

Is there research which demonstrates that one method is better than the other?

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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I mean, that's exactly how kcal count is measured - a portion of food is burnt and the energy released is then measured.

You can't measure nutritional values like that. Not everything that can be burned is available to the human metabolism. Cellulose being one obvious example.

That's true, but we aren't usually burning things that humans would not normally eat. There's a lot of variations on measuring calories (not nutritional value, two different things), but the method of the Calorimeter is pretty standard and in line with the parent's comment.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorimeter

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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You can't measure nutritional values like that. Not everything that can be burned is available to the human metabolism. Cellulose being one obvious example.

Isn't that how all food is measured though?

It is burned to measure total energy and then a model is applied to approximate the calories available to the body.

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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About 20 years ago I stayed for two weeks on a rural rice farm in Goa. The toilets fed directly into the pig sty. Very directly down a short chute add though a hole. An eager pig snout poked through the hole could make contact. Never before nor never again have I been so startled.

But... why... Pigs don’t eat human faeces...

Pigs eat everything, including humans.

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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"per capita food waste in Europe and North America is 95kg to 105kg a year" That's a massive amount, and that is just waste in the household, not waste in the farm or factory. I can understand some wastage of salad and berries etc, but they're all lighter stuff. How can the average westerner waste 2kg food a week???

It took me a long time when I first started living alone and taking care of all my meals to figure out how to not waste my food, mostly through trial, error, and taking note of every single useful bit of advice I came across online or in meatspace.

I still don’t think I’m particularly efficient, just that I waste a lot less than I used to, and if I could fit a freezer chest in my apartment, I know a few ways that I could waste even less. Mainly what I do now is to shop at a local grocery just about every day, I’m blessed with an abundance of those and good options, and try not to buy more than I will cook in a day or two. This has become easier since switching to an almost entirely meat, egg and vegetable diet so I don’t have dairy products, soy products, bread, pasta, cereals, noodles, beans, or anything besides my spices, dried herbs, salts, oils and vinegars sitting around. Despite that, I still end up throwing away more than I would like every few weeks, but probably not 2kg a week.

Had I grown up in a household with people that knew how to manage a household, it would have been a lot less trial and error, but with our over reliance on packaged foods instead of just what you can find in the produce section and at the butcher, probably a lot of people like me are growing up not learning how to manage their pantries and fridges.

That’s without even factoring in restaurants. It isn’t uncommon for people to not finish their food and leave it rather than taking the rest with them, and more so the more people eat out. Rather than finishing their leftovers at home, if they even took it home, people will often just go out to eat again the next day.

Re: South Korea now recycles 95% of its food waste

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About 20 years ago I stayed for two weeks on a rural rice farm in Goa. The toilets fed directly into the pig sty. Very directly down a short chute add though a hole. An eager pig snout poked through the hole could make contact. Never before nor never again have I been so startled.

But... why... Pigs don’t eat human faeces...

Pigs eat anything. Well, maybe not rocks. I'm not sure about that though, they might still try.
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