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Canada’s legal pot is going well

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Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on). Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy). Those who are indifferent ar…

Absolutely every public offering has these same groups of critics. It's simply not a useful signal for whether things are going well or not.

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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Legal pot is not going good anywhere around the world except very few places like Colorado. This is because politicians insist on not paying attention to scientific studies and keep doing irrational things. Look at Massachusetts, one of the first states to legalize cannabis, still handful of legal shops, only 1 in Boston area. What changed is now a few mega corps (US) or the government (Canada) are your drug dealers,…

Washington seems like a functional market in my personal experience.

oregon as well - it seemed to burgeon after the legislature stepped in.

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The statistical reality isn’t operational for many people. Many people would not want to even begin to look for an underground supplier let alone deal with one. (I am in favour of legalisation.)

I would've liked to try some drugs, weed included, but I haven't because I don't have contacts and I don't want to deal with some lowlife who will probably scam me. If they made weed legal I would probably give it a spin, and maybe even get hooked, much to my own loss since I, as many other people, lack self-control. (I am against legalisation; I don't live in Canada.)

Your lack of self control should never usurp my freedom.

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The statistical reality isn’t operational for many people. Many people would not want to even begin to look for an underground supplier let alone deal with one. (I am in favour of legalisation.)

I would've liked to try some drugs, weed included, but I haven't because I don't have contacts and I don't want to deal with some lowlife who will probably scam me. If they made weed legal I would probably give it a spin, and maybe even get hooked, much to my own loss since I, as many other people, lack self-control. (I am against legalisation; I don't live in Canada.)

Would you also vote to ban fast food, video games, social media, and Netflix?

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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> Long lines formed on a sub-zero morning last week to buy marijuana over the counter from three different shops in Ottawa, the first capital in the industrialized world to open them.

Ah yes, Netherlands: a land of barbarians, murder and rampant disentery. Not a single industry in sight.

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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post #65

> Long lines formed on a sub-zero morning last week to buy marijuana over the counter from three different shops in Ottawa, the first capital in the industrialized world to open them. Ah yes, Netherlands: a land of barbarians, murder and rampant disentery. Not a single industry in sight.

In fairness, the Netherlands does not have legal cannabis. It just has deliberately lax enforcement.

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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post #65

> Long lines formed on a sub-zero morning last week to buy marijuana over the counter from three different shops in Ottawa, the first capital in the industrialized world to open them. Ah yes, Netherlands: a land of barbarians, murder and rampant disentery. Not a single industry in sight.

> Ah yes, Netherlands: a land of barbarians, murder and rampant disentery. Not a single industry in sight.

Netherlands were the first in the industrialized world to tolerate it, and that demonstrated a lot of courage given the general attitudes at the time. Their example paved the way forward to today, when Canada is the first country in the industrialized world to give cannabis legal status.

Legalization of cannabis is the drug policy equivalent of marriage equality in social policy (which in Canada is also the law of the land).

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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As a consumer of cannabis for several decades prior to legalization, it has indeed gone very well. I am in Ontario and my first legal online order took 3 weeks, but delivery is now typically 2-3 days.

Brick and mortar just recently launched in this province, it was rushed and isnt in good shape. Other provinces are faring better in this regard.

The product selection is large, but in stock inventory of lower-priced products especially tends to be lacking. Some clearly over-priced products are trying to be the "Apple of weed" and failing, the market should sort that out.

An unexpected challenge of legalization is that new users can get overwhelmed by choice. Our government has unfortunately repeated the old indica=sleepy, sativa=energetic nonsense in the official literature despite advances in the science showing that while these distinctions are great to seperate plant types they distinguish between effects poorly.

I have been working on a project [1] that attempts to index the scientific literature and provide a better, evidence-based path towards cultivar selections. Every endocannabinoid system is different so this will never be totally correct, but it can at least trim down the options for new users.

[1] https://www.whatsmypot.com

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

#69
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe Nicotine rather than Alcohol would have been better for his point. But I'd still trust Joe to drive the forklift after a cup of coffee and cigarette than a drink and a doob.

Personally I would consider caffeine more impairing than nicotine but I don't think either are a big concern as far as impairment goes. Impairment on those substances is probably best handled in law with the same general, hand-wavey subsections as drinking too much water or eating too much Taco Bell.

Aren't stimulants the opposite of impairing? :shrugs:

Re: Canada’s legal pot is going well

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Washington seems like a functional market in my personal experience.

oregon as well - it seemed to burgeon after the legislature stepped in.

Yes. My experience in the west side of Oregon is that there are stores everywhere, though I know that isn't true in smaller rural communities. Prices have come down considerably since the stores first opened. I've watched the sign out front of one store I drive past frequently go from $7 per gram, to $5 per gram, now at $3 per gram, and I expect it to continue downward.
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