VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

Post by ownagefool » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 12:42 PM UTC

nindalf wrote: post #155

prepend wrote: post #128

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Tracking should always be opt-in, not opt-out. I base this on expected user preference and trying to optimize for user happiness and functionality. I don’t think this is as true for non-OSS software where the purpose is likely more toward revenue generation than community and user functionality.

First, please let's draw a distinction between different kinds of tracking. We're smart enough to appreciate the naunces here. Some information is more valuable than others. * How many times you clicked Edit -> Paste vs Ctrl/Cmd + V. This is not personal information. It cannot be used in any way to identify you. * Your location/medical information. Guard this with your life if you must. Share it with literally no one…

Post by renox » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 1:06 PM UTC

gibbitz wrote: post #68

smadurange wrote: post #63

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12G to use VS Code? LOL.

I gave up on vscode when it locked up on a 32gb machine. Seeing that there's analytics code inside clears that right up. I assumed the problems I had with electron based apps were the overhead of running a browser on top of the application. The real problem is that it's running 1990s omniture code. Thankfully they haven't added auto-play video to the search yet...

Post by wolco » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 1:37 PM UTC

Vinnl wrote: post #220

Nullabillity wrote: post #176

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So now we need to allow surveillance, just to prevent the biased data set from ruining the software even more?

No, you don't need to do that, but if you don't, you should realise that that results in biased data, and thus influences the focus of development. If you have an alternative other than "the developers should just magically guess what would make users happy", then I'd be happy to hear it, but otherwise, that's just the way the world works, and thus that's the trade-off you will have to make.

Post by wolco » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 1:43 PM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #77

steve_taylor wrote: post #73

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Good things such as trackers ostensibly designed to deliver you relevant content?

No, good things such as telemetry and automated error reporting so that bugs can be fixed effectively and efficiently and everyone is better off for it.

Post by z3t4 » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 2:00 PM UTC

naikrovek wrote: post #168

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It maybe starts with simple statistics. But then you want to know what features the user use, then you want to know what other programs they have installed. Then you want to know what the users search for on the web. etc. It's a slippery slope.

Every time I hear the phrase "it's a slippery slope" uttered by someone arguing against something, I am immediately suspicious of the argument that person is making. There really isn't such a thing, in the way you've used that phrase. Capturing telemetry on how I use a tool from within that tool is perfectly fine, to me. Collecting telemetry on my search history in the browser by that same tool isn't. THERE ARE NO IN…