Canada’s legal pot is going well

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Post by forkLding » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 5:40 AM UTC

Canada’s legal pot is going well
reuters.com

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Post by DKnoll » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:04 AM UTC

This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on).

Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy).

Those who are indifferent are annoyed they have not offered any incentive to municipalities to allow stores (no share of taxes, no increase to enforcement budgets, no ability to control, limit or place restrictions on store locations) and made prices high making thus causing no reduction of the black market.

Those who are 'against' think private businesses selling weed will increase sale to minors and just generally make a bunch of moral panic arguments.

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Post by sintaxi » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:10 AM UTC

No it isn't. Weed went from a thriving grey market to a black market.

What changed is the government is now acting as a cartel for a very small number of companies who are allowed to sell legally. The legal companies are not meeting demand in any way comparable to pre-legalization. Prior to legalization we had a thriving free market the government wasn't getting a cut so there was no incentive for the laws on the books to be enforced. Now there is. The government makes money from weed sales so they have incentive to use force against those who are meeting the needs of the market.

Nothing got safer for the public. Its just now very risky to sell weed. Screw everything about how the government legalized weed in Canada. Its exactly as it was before except now the big companies have the RCMP as their enforcers to use against their competition.

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Post by spinach » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:14 AM UTC

DKnoll wrote: post #2

This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on). Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy). Those who are indifferent ar…

Yeah, my mind initially read the title as 'legal pot isn't going well for Canada', then I realized what it actually said and was confused. The physical storefronts in Ontario have been a mess, with some areas, like Ottawa getting 3 stores, with most of Ontario not having anything and a lot of people don't want to buy online. Though I don't really think it's a big deal at this point, it's new and going through lots of bumps now, but overtime will work itself out.

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Post by eljimmy » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:22 AM UTC

DKnoll wrote: post #2

This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on). Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy). Those who are indifferent ar…

I don’t really have any complaints about how they implemented it here in Ontario. It’s far better than what the previous government had planned.

Granted, I don’t smoke that often - but I’ve been to one of the stores and ordered from OCS online and have nothing negative to say. Maybe I just had low expectations?

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Post by DKnoll » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:22 AM UTC

spinach wrote: post #4

DKnoll wrote: post #2

This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on). Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy). Those who are indifferent ar…

Yeah, my mind initially read the title as 'legal pot isn't going well for Canada', then I realized what it actually said and was confused. The physical storefronts in Ontario have been a mess, with some areas, like Ottawa getting 3 stores, with most of Ontario not having anything and a lot of people don't want to buy online. Though I don't really think it's a big deal at this point, it's new and going through lots of…

I don't smoke anymore so I mostly rely on second-hand accounts. I'm of the same mind though, anything the government does has bumps, it's still progress.

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Post by rocky1138 » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:33 AM UTC

DKnoll wrote: post #2

This doesn't echo public sentiment at all. Many are critical of the way implementation has happened, whether for or against (at least in Ontario, the most populous province and the one I base everything that follows on). Those who are 'for' are upset about the supply issues that have occurred with the legal supply being limited (long delays), more expensive and often poor quality (moldy). Those who are indifferent ar…

I suspect this is some form of reverse survivor bias: the people who are happy with the service (like me) are not out on the streets cheering. It's fantastic, it's just not something that we talk about due to the stigma.

I smoked exceedingly rarely before legalization (3 times in my entire life) and now I smoke often. I'm happy to pay the paltry prices for the amount of enjoyment I get from it, and I know that the weed I get is safe for me to consume. It also arrives in a day or two after ordering. Most times I'm surprised it came so quick!

I'm in Ontario.

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Post by charleshan » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:35 AM UTC

The Candian Government is getting a cut of a large market and will be using additional tax revenue to improve the quality of life in Canada. It is no different than how cigarette and alcohol are being sold today.

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Post by gnulinux » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:36 AM UTC

Legal pot is not going good anywhere around the world except very few places like Colorado. This is because politicians insist on not paying attention to scientific studies and keep doing irrational things. Look at Massachusetts, one of the first states to legalize cannabis, still handful of legal shops, only 1 in Boston area. What changed is now a few mega corps (US) or the government (Canada) are your drug dealers, instead of sketchy randos. It's impossible to find a thriving free cannabis market. This is absolutely ridiculous. >70% of Americans support legalization and multiple states voted for legalization but it's still impossible to thrive as a mom&pop cannabis shop. When alcohol and coffee are so normalized that people can consume these drugs even in workplaces, it's simply ridiculous how we treat weed, quite possibly a safer drug. I'm not even talking about illegal states, because that's an entirely different story. But what's going on in legal states like MA et al is bizarre.

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Post by mahgnous » Sat, Apr 13, 2019, 6:40 AM UTC

This whole thing is just fucking retarded