Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Emacs 26.2 Released

lists.gnu.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

201–210 of 278 posts

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#201

Post by innocentoldguy »

h1d wrote: post #138
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

Have you ever compared it to other modern editors like IntelliJ and VS code? If so, any thoughts about productivity?

In my opinion, there is no comparison in productivity. Emacs and Vim both beat IntelliJ and VS Code hands down. Anytime you have to reach for the mouse for something you’re wasting time.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#202

Post by innocentoldguy »

jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

I really like Emacs, but its chording gives me RSI pain. I wish I could have stuck with it though. That’s great that you could.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#203

Post by ngngngng »

I'm a heavy user for a vim for the last few years. Is emacs worth checking out to potentially switch to? Or should I just stick with what I'm already productive with?

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#204

Post by ageofwant »

ngngngng wrote: post #203

I'm a heavy user for a vim for the last few years. Is emacs worth checking out to potentially switch to? Or should I just stick with what I'm already productive with?

You can have the best of both by installing evil-mode. Or try out http://spacemacs.org, which has evil as a default layer.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#205

Post by DonHopkins »

jimbokun wrote: post #73
young_unixer wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you had RSI issues? Do you use it with the default keybindings? I've tried it a few times but the default keybindings seem unnatural to me. Not that it's Emacs fault, considering the keyboards they used back then.

Step one: remap Caps Lock to Control.

HARD CORE Emacs users remap Space and Control! ;)

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#206

Post by laughingman2 »

emacsvimlover wrote: post #112
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

Can you give the n00b's any tips on how to master emacs while keeping it interesting?

For me, I knew touch typing (not a master but enough to not see the keyboard while typing), that combined with little experience in vim bindings (basic navigation hjkl, v) etc was enough to become really comfortable with spacemacs. Spacemacs's mnemonic bindings will make it easy for you to start having a muscle memory of bindings to do stuff like opening file tree, moving between windows, switching layouts, killing buffers (all essential for a good workflow in emacs).

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#207

Post by laughingman2 »

bitexploder wrote: post #100
snazz wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’ve seen this pop up a lot lately—someone who’s been using Emacs or Vim for years and then sees the “new cool” editor and says they’ll be switching to it. I have the same question, since someone who’s used Emacs for that long would surely have “seen the light” already. Maybe they’re yak shaving with the config instead of getting work done? That’s one of the few valid complaints I can think of.

Ultimately, VS Code just works. I have bounced between Emacs and VS Code as a long time (many years) Emacs user. Things break less often, the extensions are nice, the extension model of the editor is much more coherent, and JavaScript is just a language I find easier to work with. It is much easier to find JavaScript that already solves some problem I have if I am extending the editor. The Python support is good enou…

Oddly I left vscode for emacs for Tramp. Tramp makes it possible for me to have autocomplete, remote repl, remote debugging out of the box (with the python layer plugins in spacemacs). sshfs + terminal never felt integrated and autocomplete doesn't work from the python environment in the remote machine. That was the moment I thought that the flexibility of emacs is hard to match with text editors having a plugin system. I wonder if something like tramp will ever be written into vscode.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#208

Post by laughingman2 »

innocentoldguy wrote: post #202
jes wrote: post #8

I have been using GNU Emacs since the late 1980s. It has been my life's editor, so to speak. At 59 1/2, it seems unlikely that I will ever switch to another editor. It's served me well. I am grateful to the hackers that created it.

I really like Emacs, but its chording gives me RSI pain. I wish I could have stuck with it though. That’s great that you could.

Give it a chance and try spacemacs (and then after using it for sometime maybe start building something from scratch if you think its too big). The eVil (vim) mode works out of the box and mnemonic bindings are easy to memorize.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#209

Post by azinman2 »

jasonm23 wrote: post #200
azinman2 wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just imagine when you discover vim!! :)

Vim is with respect, just an editor. Emacs is often confused as being an editor, but it's not. It certainly houses a few different editors, including Vim (as people will often point out eVil is Vim inside Emacs) Emacs is basically a text centric computing platform, built with a flavor of Lisp. At this point there's several thousand apps / packages. It used to be a joke that Emacs is an Operating System that lacks a d…

> “Emacs is basically a text centric computing platform, built with a flavor of Lisp.”

That’s actually the best explanation of Emacs I’ve heard. Thank you.

Re: Emacs 26.2 Released

#210

Post by spopejoy »

a_e_k wrote: post #161
gkya wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use menus. The menus are really handy for discovery. Many I see disable them (the menu-bar-mode), but it doesn't take up more than about a line, and I go to it to discover what interesting bits a mode has or to find some functionality I use less often and forgot the keybinding to it. I do also use which-key-mode, and there is always M-x apropos & the completion, but menu is a nice companion to these stuff.

I'm one who turns them off. When disabled, you can just hit C-down-mouse-3 (i.e., ctrl-right click) anywhere in a buffer to get the global menu in the form of a pop-up. That works well enough for me for the rare occasions when I want to go spelunking through the menu (mostly to find some obscure Calc op).

M-~ (meta-tilde)! Accidentally discovered this the other day.
Post reply on HN