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Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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It is, but people try to get away with it by using a mistakenly committed config file from a few years back to argue that the URL’s are now MIT’d. The commit was quickly reverted, but they didn’t rewrite history to totally remove it, and now here we are.

Source?

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Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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It maybe starts with simple statistics. But then you want to know what features the user use, then you want to know what other programs they have installed. Then you want to know what the users search for on the web. etc. It's a slippery slope.

I think it sends MS every keypress in search fields - https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/49161

If you had actually read that issue,

> Lol, probably just an oversight because they made the search a lot better.

> So I think it only does this on the settings file and not on other files ;)

> https://code.visualstudio.com/blogs/2018/04/25/bing-settings...

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

They know it. They just don't trust Microsoft.

But you trust these random people?

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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post #3

Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

1. One less setting to configure, lest the Default monsters gets you 2. VSCodium is just a FLOSS VSCode binary. You could build it yourself from the available VSCode source. However, the VSCode binary is not FLOSS so you cannot be sure what it is running. It's not like VS code is the next PRISM-- I'm sure MS has better ways to spy on users ;). The real pull is whether you prefer FLOSS by default.

How do we know the build of VSCodium is what they say it is? Aren't we in the exact same situation as with using the MS version, except we know even LESS about the maintainers?

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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post #3

Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

1. One less setting to configure, lest the Default monsters gets you 2. VSCodium is just a FLOSS VSCode binary. You could build it yourself from the available VSCode source. However, the VSCode binary is not FLOSS so you cannot be sure what it is running. It's not like VS code is the next PRISM-- I'm sure MS has better ways to spy on users ;). The real pull is whether you prefer FLOSS by default.

> However, the VSCode binary is not FLOSS so you cannot be sure what it is running.

That's equally true of the VSCodium binary. It's not a reproducible build, I have no way of knowing from which source code the binary was generated.

Of course I could build from source, but VSCodium is just VSCode built from source with a build flag set. So in this regard it's not contributing anything notable (and doesn't claim so either).

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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This is awesome, it's a lot faster than VSCode. I can now use a low end machine to code finally haha. No need for 12GB Ram notebooks anymore.

12G to use VS Code? LOL.

I gave up on vscode when it locked up on a 32gb machine. Seeing that there's analytics code inside clears that right up. I assumed the problems I had with electron based apps were the overhead of running a browser on top of the application. The real problem is that it's running 1990s omniture code. Thankfully they haven't added auto-play video to the search yet...

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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They know it. They just don't trust Microsoft.

That's mighty dissonant and hypocritical of them to use and benefit from Microsoft's work and investment, and claim that their telemetry is the part they don't trust.

Haha indeed. Besides, this is opensource and one can build it from source anytime. Using emotionally charged language to sell a trivial product.

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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I had no idea VS Code even had tracking.. Does anyone know what exactly is being tracked?

Chris Dias offers up a suggestion for how to investigate further here: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-1... But, speaking as a developer of an open source software product that includes telemetry[1], I expect they're tracking really basic stuff, like: DAU, MAU, edited file types, project size, crash reports, etc. Basically, information that helps to internally justify the continued existenc…

> I expect they're tracking really basic stuff [...] information that helps to internally justify the continued existence of the project, and data that lets them better prioritize resources on the project.

This is my big issue with almost all analytics setups. Sure, you expect that they're probably tracking stuff like that, which is perfectly reasonable and benefits everyone. But when you look at the privacy policy inevitably you find that the data they "may" collect is incredibly vaguely defined, wide-ranging, and generally not actually limited (they use phrases like "we collect data such as..." and "some examples of data we collect are...").

And then what they do with the data is also left unrestricted by phrases like "ways we use the data include..."

And then when you point this out, everyone tells you that you're being paranoid and they're just covering themselves and don't be silly.

And then when they do precisely what their policy legally enables them to do (cough Facebook cough Cambridge Analytica cough) everyone is aghast.

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