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VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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In the main version of Vscode it will give me micro stutters when I use WSR+ vocola. _So far_ there's been none of that with vscodium, however this could be because as with this fresh install there's no plugins.

Same here! I cannot understand why it's a lot faster than VSCode, it's weird. I know have to try the plugins to see.

Is it possible the "slowness" was DNS lookups possibly for the reporting?

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

Yes it is - tracking that you have to opt-out of is evil (regardless of how well intentioned the tracking is).

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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I suspect the tracking in VSCode is mainly used to improve the product. It's probably in my best interest, and the interest of the community as a whole to leave tracking on. I mean, I get it, HN is usually a more skeptical and security-focused crowd. At the same time, it's likely MS will just take that information and tailor their bugfixes and features to the things I need most, so by all means I want them to have it…

It maybe starts with simple statistics. But then you want to know what features the user use, then you want to know what other programs they have installed. Then you want to know what the users search for on the web. etc. It's a slippery slope.

It's a shame we have to assume the worst. What would be better is for Microsoft to be more transparent about the telemetry and to enable more granular control. That said, I wouldn't bother checking as I don't really care. I rub shoulders with infosec issues daily, as most IT folk do these days. When I think about the perceived risk of telemetry from VSCode, now and in the future it's a negligible risk that I accept.

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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I suspect the tracking in VSCode is mainly used to improve the product. It's probably in my best interest, and the interest of the community as a whole to leave tracking on. I mean, I get it, HN is usually a more skeptical and security-focused crowd. At the same time, it's likely MS will just take that information and tailor their bugfixes and features to the things I need most, so by all means I want them to have it…

I'm ok with until its get used to improve the editor. It would much better if they can share the data they are collecting.

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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post #16

I suspect the tracking in VSCode is mainly used to improve the product. It's probably in my best interest, and the interest of the community as a whole to leave tracking on. I mean, I get it, HN is usually a more skeptical and security-focused crowd. At the same time, it's likely MS will just take that information and tailor their bugfixes and features to the things I need most, so by all means I want them to have it…

It maybe starts with simple statistics. But then you want to know what features the user use, then you want to know what other programs they have installed. Then you want to know what the users search for on the web. etc. It's a slippery slope.

you should read up on slipper slope fallacy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It maybe starts with simple statistics. But then you want to know what features the user use, then you want to know what other programs they have installed. Then you want to know what the users search for on the web. etc. It's a slippery slope.

You've literally described a slippery slope fallacy

"Slippery slope" is not a fallacy. Life is full of slippery slopes in terms of behavior.

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

Yes it is - tracking that you have to opt-out of is evil (regardless of how well intentioned the tracking is).

But how do the PMs at Microsoft figure out new features without user data?

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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I had no idea VS Code even had tracking.. Does anyone know what exactly is being tracked?

Chris Dias offers up a suggestion for how to investigate further here: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/60#issuecomment-1... But, speaking as a developer of an open source software product that includes telemetry[1], I expect they're tracking really basic stuff, like: DAU, MAU, edited file types, project size, crash reports, etc. Basically, information that helps to internally justify the continued existenc…

Unrelated, OneBusAway is lovely and I just went to settings to make sure I had telemetry enabled for it. I had no idea it was open source!

Re: VSCodium – An Open Source Visual Studio Code Without Trackers

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Is this needed? You can disable telemetry from the settings: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/supporting/FAQ#_how-to-di...

The idea is just silly.

A Firefox without telemetry or tracking, yes. I visit political news sites and whatnot, so I don't want to be profiled.

VSCode... oh, look I created Hello World in Python, that should stay a closely guarded secret! Or maybe not considering that I totally don't care if that info were public, let alone aggregated.

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