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Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by ericlavigne »

CoachRufus87 wrote: post #21

that was me 2 years ago. I considered elance (couldn't afford it), recruited 1 cs buddy I went to high school with (he was busy doing his own things), so I figured I had no choice but to learn to program. I found HN, which introduced me to Michael Hartl's Ruby on Rails Tutorial, and I just launched my first app: http://www.fanscription.com Oh, and I'm an Econ/Business Major. "Just Do It" -Nike

I love your front page.

Have you gotten much response from businesses that want to use your service? How are you advertising?

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

vog wrote: post #19
geebee wrote: post #14

This is a good post. I'd take it one step farther. To say the idea is nothing without the execution still (kind of) suggests that they are different things. I think that where it comes to software, the execution is the idea. I wouldn't quite claim that ideas aren't worth much. I know a few academics, and they are rightly careful about sharing their ideas before they get far enough with the implementation (lab work, p…

> where it comes to software, the execution is the idea. I strongly disagree with that. Although ideas and execution (i.e. software) are both "nothing more" than information, they don't have much in common. Also, ideas are refined as well as changed during execution - that is, our perception of the big picture changes as we get more information about the details. > Give two programmers the same "idea", and you'll end…

You quote:

>Give two programmers the same "idea", and you'll end up with two different products

Do you or the parent have a citation?

I used to work in patents, the number of independent recurrences of the same idea in a particular field is often pretty high. All truck drivers appear to think of digital number plates for example.

Exact details may differ but I'd expect the majority of programmers to come up with a lot of crossover if implementing a well-defined idea.

It depends on what you mean by idea of course - is it "we'll make a game" or is it "we'll introduce digital scoring to board games" or "we'll allow bartering in our MMORPG".

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by jimbokun »

lian wrote: post #90
bad_user wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve had one competitive advantage: best friending Steve fucking Wozniak. You know how that happened? They shared common interests, including knowledge of electronics, pulling pranks and passion for computers (yes, Jobs was technically competent enough). And if I know one thing about %99.9999 of would-be entrepreneurs: they aren't best friends with someone like Wozniak.

So...we agree. My point is that where some of the other people mentioned had their masters degrees in CS, Jobs seems to have been more of a business-inclined hobbyist who really liked and could competently work with computers. I concur that his biggest strength as far as computer science went was that he happened to pal around and co-found a company with someone who was the most badass hobbyist in town.

Being friends with woz and hanging out at the homebrew club is a probably better education in computing than any degree.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by dasil003 »

afterburner wrote: post #69
Kilimanjaro wrote: post #65

So, you are looking for a programmer? Well, I am one. A goddamn good one. I can make a computer cry twisting its inner wires with just my thought. And I happen to be looking for a partner too. Are you a solid-brass-balls entrepreneur not afraid of rasing money? Can you knock down every tabloid's door to get our story told? Can you set up appointments across the globe with people richer than god? Can you bring a thous…

I'm going to keep this on file if the situation ever comes up again... I couldn't quite articulate the sentiment then. Although it might burn bridges.

To be Machiavellian about it, it's worth burning bridges with the two-bit hacks if it furthers your reputation as a truly badass developer.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by CoachRufus87 »

ericlavigne wrote: post #91
CoachRufus87 wrote: post #21

that was me 2 years ago. I considered elance (couldn't afford it), recruited 1 cs buddy I went to high school with (he was busy doing his own things), so I figured I had no choice but to learn to program. I found HN, which introduced me to Michael Hartl's Ruby on Rails Tutorial, and I just launched my first app: http://www.fanscription.com Oh, and I'm an Econ/Business Major. "Just Do It" -Nike

I love your front page. Have you gotten much response from businesses that want to use your service? How are you advertising?

Thanks! I launched the site just a week ago and have been in talks with a few local businesses who want to sign up. As far as advertising goes, I'm starting locally here in Austin and hope to gradually spread out over time. I love the fact that I'm learning/making mistakes/improving as a make progress.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by rndmcnlly0 »

yoshyosh wrote: post #56
naithemilkman wrote: post #41

I am currently one of these guys in transition. Using Gladwell's 10,000 hour as a proxy for mastery. I estimate getting between 100 - 250 hours of programming time is good enough to get a working MVP out. Does anyone think this is overly optimistic or unrealistic?

Ive read it takes about 6 months. To be honest a lot of it is about deliberate practice rather than just 'getting in the hours'

"Deliberate practice" is, in fact, what Gladwell is saying the 10,000 hours should measure.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by tjmc »

dools wrote: post #86

I have quite a few people I know who are on the "business side" of the entrepreneurial merry go round that quite often call me with their latest idea. The remarkable thing is that no matter how many times I get back to them with a time estimate of 6 months - or a cost investment of $50k - $100k to get it live etc. the first sentence they always speak is "it's just a simple site that ... " In fact it's not really limi…

My stepbrother used to do that. After politely turning down about his third "simple" idea, I tried a different tack and asked him to draw the entire app on paper.

After all, if it was so simple, it wouldn't take long to draw right? I insisted he include the appearance of validation messages, system generated emails and administration screens.

He didn't ask for my help again, but to his credit he did paper prototype another idea and got a guy to code it.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by benohear »

Kilimanjaro wrote: post #65

So, you are looking for a programmer? Well, I am one. A goddamn good one. I can make a computer cry twisting its inner wires with just my thought. And I happen to be looking for a partner too. Are you a solid-brass-balls entrepreneur not afraid of rasing money? Can you knock down every tabloid's door to get our story told? Can you set up appointments across the globe with people richer than god? Can you bring a thous…

"I just need a business person"

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by kaiwen1 »

Great quote:Learning to program used to be an inevitable consequence of using computers. Sadly, that's no longer true. The inevitable consequence of using computers these days seems to be interacting with people we may or may not know well and watching videos.

Re: I just need a programmer

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Post by kaiwen1 »

Great quote:Learning to program used to be an inevitable consequence of using computers. Sadly, that's no longer true. The inevitable consequence of using computers these days seems to be interacting with people we may or may not know well and watching videos.
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