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Great developers are raised, not hired

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Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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The article is not only on point but it reflects a big problem in the tech companies.

Businesses loose millions and they just burn cash because of toxic and arrogant developments teams.

I can quadruple the sales of the company that I work for but you cannot push any change through the arrogant development team who don't give a chance to other people, it is so pathetic.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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I have never seen a single company/startup place a job posting for a junior position, (lucky if they even say training)

Last time I checked, everyone wants to look for a senior developer with 5+ years of experience. It's some sort of hidden bonus if you're from a FAANG company as well.

I'm guessing everyone wants to be the next Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix or Uber.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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post #3

I guess the cynic in me would ask what the point is in polishing a rough gem in your organization into a diamond, if you're thus turning them into a target for other people to poach.

You get the first dibs, don't you? If you need a diamond level dev, you must provide diamond level compensation. The article just points out that it is simpler to get that level from other sources than filtering what is on the market.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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post #4

I have never seen a single company/startup place a job posting for a junior position, (lucky if they even say training) Last time I checked, everyone wants to look for a senior developer with 5+ years of experience. It's some sort of hidden bonus if you're from a FAANG company as well. I'm guessing everyone wants to be the next Google, Facebook, Amazon, Netflix or Uber.

so they do want junior developers. They’re just giving them the “senior” title ridiculously early in their careers.

What no one REALLY wants are ENTRY LEVEL developers, who tend to be a net negative to productivity for roughly the first year or two.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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Ok, so the guy is in the training and conference business. That would seem to skew his perspective.

Usually the people who talk loudest about mentoring are clueless or are in the teaching business.

In the real world, there is zero reward for mentoring. Moreover, if you do it, you might get fired and be replaced by the now cheaper mentee.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

#8

The article is not only on point but it reflects a big problem in the tech companies. Businesses loose millions and they just burn cash because of toxic and arrogant developments teams. I can quadruple the sales of the company that I work for but you cannot push any change through the arrogant development team who don't give a chance to other people, it is so pathetic.

The problem in tech companies is arrogant and clueless management that treats developers like dirt and blames them for everything.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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post #5
post #3

I guess the cynic in me would ask what the point is in polishing a rough gem in your organization into a diamond, if you're thus turning them into a target for other people to poach.

You get the first dibs, don't you? If you need a diamond level dev, you must provide diamond level compensation. The article just points out that it is simpler to get that level from other sources than filtering what is on the market.

> If you need a diamond level dev, you must provide diamond level compensation.

It is baffling when companies resist against giving great developers a good raise.

If they leave, the lost productivity and onboarding will cost them more. Sometimes, they end up having to hire 2 people to replace that 1 person.

Re: Great developers are raised, not hired

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post #7

Ok, so the guy is in the training and conference business. That would seem to skew his perspective. Usually the people who talk loudest about mentoring are clueless or are in the teaching business. In the real world, there is zero reward for mentoring. Moreover, if you do it, you might get fired and be replaced by the now cheaper mentee.

How can you mentor people if you are afraid of being fired or replaced by a "cheaper" mentee? To mentor people, you have to be a professional developer, at the first place.

Professional developers achieve job security by doing great work and making themselves replaceable. Mediocre developers – by building knowledge silos.

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