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996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Re: 996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Post by ezoe »

peteretep wrote: post #90
whooshee wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China was a pure communist country before the reform. To keep the name, they had to attach it to a different interpretation. when it comes to respecting the authority, 「王侯將相,寧有種乎!」is a pretty common value to Chinese people. can be partially translated as "When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman？--John Ball".

> "When Adam delved and Eve span, Who was then the gentleman？--John Ball" Could you take another stab at translating or explaining that?

The quote was from this historical event in 秦, China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dazexiang_uprising

The people who was drafted for army was moving to the designated place. But due to the flooding, it is obvious they can't reach the place by the deadline. The penalty to miss the deadline is, by any means, death.

By facing the certain and unfair death penalty ahead of them, they decided the uprising. Saying.

王侯將相寧有種乎, "The king, loads, generals or ministers, Is there the seed for them?(no it isn't)"

In the end, they(the leaders, 陳勝 and 呉広) couldn't complete the the revolution. But the uprising movements continues and 秦 era was ended soon after.

Re: 996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Post by jjakque »

jasonhansel wrote: post #26
fasthandle wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To block the 996 Github presence on Github would mean to block Github, as Github is served via HTTPS. That's not viable as Github is far too useful to block (IIRC it and StackOverflow were blocked a couple of years ago but then unblocked due to uproar from the tech industry). To block Github 966 pages specifically means the domestic browsers are pre-filtering URL requests before they're made. And that means these dom…

I really wonder if someone could start a GitHub repo mirroring, e.g., news articles that are censored by various governments. Could be a nice way of making censorship difficult.

Reminds me of NPM been blocked in China so CNPM appears to mirror nodejs packages.

CNPM is now better known as https://npm.taobao.org/

What's there to prevent private organizations censorships?

Re: 996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Post by bjackman »

IloveHN84 wrote: post #65
bjackman wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have just tested. I get "Failed to send tweet" if sending from Android client, and I leave in the page preview when composing the tweet. - It works fine from web interface, problem is specific to Android - The problem doesn't show up for "123.icu" so it seems specific to 996.icu

What's your phone maker?

Nokia (recent, it's really a Chinese company). Also I'm in Vietnam.

Re: 996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Post by rqs »

rqs wrote: post #38
microsage wrote: post #28

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For what it's worth, I just tried opening the supposedly blocked site using Wechat, in China, on a Chinese phone (xiaomi) with a Chinese mobile plan (China unicom) and it works fine. Not sure if that's because it was never actually blocked or because they realized blocking it was a bad move and rolled it back.

The block has been (mostly? I guess) lifted. If national news paper[0] joined the discussion, nobody dare to keep the blockage. Especially they (the web browsers) was lying about the reason of block. [0] http://paper.people.com.cn/rmrb/html/2019-04/11/nw.D110000re... (Chinese)

It turned out many web browsers still blocking it. See this video published at Apr 12, 2019: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GohinJAkPPU

Re: 996, GitHub, and China's digital workers rights awakening

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Post by ZeikJT »

est wrote: post #66
girzel wrote: post #21

The term for this strategy is "collateral freedom": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collateral_freedom

And collateral freedom converges to no freedom. That wikipedia page used to have list of available working "domain fronting" list, and not it's all gone. People seems don't to remember Github was blocked several times in China before. Each time the developers united to file complaints to central government to get it unlocked. Still today all gist.github.com is blocked. http is blocked. God know when will github be to…

That wikipedia page never had any domain fronting lists according to its edit history. It does and seemingly has always had a link to the Domain Fronting page in the "See also" section. Looking over the Domain Fronting page I also don't see any proof in the edit history that any list has been removed.

Maybe you were confusing these two for a different page that still exists?

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