Whereas in the US, we only discriminate against people based on the origin of their license plate?
What does the US have to do with anything?
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Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
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Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
#82From what I read even though what the school did is totally horrible, there is a lot of hatred for "Henan" people.
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#83Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am having trouble understanding how you can argue that in 2019 we can still all make fun of each other freely. This is evidence that you are in a bubble. The world is a big, diverse, complex place.
Indeed, we probably all live in some sort of bubble, but as far as bubbles go it is a fairly large one, it includes academia, the corporate world, old media, news media, social media, entertainment, education, to name just a few domains. I can still joke around with my high school buddies though, most of them anyway, not Chad, the self righteous prick, so there is that.
as far as bubbles go it is a fairly large one, it includes academia, the corporate world, old media, news media, social media, entertainment,
Actually, you pretty much hit it on the nose! That's the particular extended bubble which effectively controls much of 2019's media and has the economic and political clout to make their (often misguided) will stick. That's a particular bubble which has unusually thick walls, while there's a particularly pressing societal need for its members to see from beyond its own boundaries.
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#84Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's considered homogenous because it's unfamiliar to most Americans. In my travels talking to people from other countries, America often appears homogenous to them (e.g. all Americans have a gun, when in reality only 30-40% of households do).
Love the "only" 30%-40%. What word would you use if it was 80%?, "about half"?
If p(person matches stereotype) is less than .90 I wouldn’t consider it to be accurate... but maybe the payoff is so good and the risk of being wrong is so low that it’s worth it to always make the observation.
What do you think?
Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
#85That's not news that's normal and accepted in China, and been like this forever :D.
> That's not news that's normal and accepted in China, and been like this forever :D.
What's normal and accepted in one place can be news someplace else.
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
>would make the differences between Americans look miniscule. The culture, custom and language difference is definitely more drastic than it is in the U.S. I was somewhat bullied as a young kid in Shanghai because I couldn't speak Shanghainese that well. However value is mostly not as divisive as it is here. I'm talking about the same kind of success is valued and worshipped throughout the country, urban and countrys…
US is more diversity than China definitely. At least in China, most people speak Mandarin, eat noodle and rice. But in US, how many people speak English? Eat Hamburg?
71% of China speaks Mandarin compared to 80% of America who can speak English.[1][2]
>Eat Noodle and Rice.
The cuisine of China is actually very varied. Rice is more common in the Southern and Middle parts of China compared to noodles which are found mostly in the Northern Parts.
You could not find a Dim Sum place in Shanghai compared to Southern cities because Dim Sum is more of a Southern tradition. While the cuisines of Shanghai are completely different than ones found in Xian, Xinjiang, and Hubei.
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_China [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_United_States
Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
#87As someone from one of the regions the article claims is discriminated against, I have literally never faced discrimination on the basis of the region I'm from. And it's not like they can't tell given that my accent is quite heavy. The dialect I speak gets made fun of a lot but that's done as much by people from the region as by people from outside it. The fact that the article straight up opens with poorly done translations of online comments makes it pretty obvious that it's just another puffpiece using cherry picked examples.
Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
#88So, like everywhere in the world? This China bashing is getting stupid.
I’m not sure how factual reporting on what is in China is invalidated as China bashing because similar phenomena occur elsewhere on the planet? Aka the what aboutism logical fallacy.
>factual reporting
I'm from one of the regions mentioned and I've literally never been discriminated against or heard of anyone else being discriminated against because of it. The article likewise called all Han Chinese racist three paragraphs in so yes I would consider it China Bashing.
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#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not whataboutism, I'm saying that this is perfectly normal and therefore I don't think it's valid criticism of China in particular.
I don't think it's intended to be criticism of China in particular. "Common thing happens in China, here are the details" is interesting news for some people. For example, I was aware that Northeasterners are seen as a distinct group, but not in terms of external rejection, but rather internal cohesion, e.g. when one of my friends joked that hearing the Northeastern accent of his taxi driver made him feel almost at h…
>not in terms of external rejection
I'm from the Northeast. Your initial assessment was the correct one. There is no external rejection of Northeasteners. Hearing others speak with a Northeastern accent is strangely reassuring though.
>"Common thing happens in China, here are the details" is interesting news for some people.
Except that's the issue, with articles like these the thing that's claimed to be happening are extreme cases but they make them out to be common. Because it's China nobody reading the Economist can smell the bullshit as they have no direct knowledge. I see it happen with Japan related news too.
Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin
#90Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m not sure how factual reporting on what is in China is invalidated as China bashing because similar phenomena occur elsewhere on the planet? Aka the what aboutism logical fallacy.
>factual reporting I'm from one of the regions mentioned and I've literally never been discriminated against or heard of anyone else being discriminated against because of it. The article likewise called all Han Chinese racist three paragraphs in so yes I would consider it China Bashing.
This was reported on in China, this is just a case of western news source re-conveying Chinese news. Of course, many Chinese call it China bashing if a Xinhua article is transcribed word for word in a western paper, and there is nothing we can do about that.
I can get that meituan was biased against Henan people, that doesn’t seem far fetched at all, I’m much less convinced they were biased against dongbei people but I know nothing about working for any Chinese company (Microsoft China did not discriminate at all as far as I could tell).