Why would a Australian be provided the rights of an US citizen?
The first amendment does not give freedoms to a citizen, it limits the government from abridging the freedom of speech.
Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
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Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#12What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
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Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#13What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
Isn’t that essentially the hacking equivalent of jaywalking? Why should it be prosecuted?
I can’t really imagine a less serious offense than (maybe) trying and failing to crack hash.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#14What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
As a layman on the subject, I guess cryptographers are attempting to crack keys every day...
With house locks, it's a plain distinction between breaking into a lock and breaking into a house. With cryptography, I imagine that distinction is really problematic?
Though I'm aware in Assange's case they do have proof of intent, but I wonder if it sets bad precedent, or is a case where they just dug up either far-reaching, obscure, or some law which is practically never really enforced?
Edit: my original comment was written poorly
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#15What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
The 1st amendment simply prohibits the united states government from abridging freedom of speech.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#16What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
Isn’t that essentially the hacking equivalent of jaywalking? Why should it be prosecuted? I can’t really imagine a less serious offense than (maybe) trying and failing to crack hash.
Someone asking for your help in hacking a DoD network doesn't seem like jay-walking.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#17One part of the indictment is very troubling: #5 Assange, Who did not possess a security clearance or need to know, Was not authorized to receive classified information of the United States.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#18What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
As a layman on the subject, I guess cryptographers are attempting to crack keys every day... With house locks, it's a plain distinction between breaking into a lock and breaking into a house. With cryptography, I imagine that distinction is really problematic? Though I'm aware in Assange's case they do have proof of intent, but I wonder if it sets bad precedent, or is a case where they just dug up either far-reaching…
I believe in this case it is because that key belonged to a US military computer system and was being cracked to access the data it protected.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Isn’t that essentially the hacking equivalent of jaywalking? Why should it be prosecuted? I can’t really imagine a less serious offense than (maybe) trying and failing to crack hash.
Someone asking for your help in hacking a DoD network doesn't seem like jay-walking.
But they didn’t hack into the DoD network. Manning had already leaked everything by the time this happened.
Assange didn’t succesfully crack the hash, it’s questionable if he even did anything with it.
At best his crime is agreeing to help hack into the DoD network, not actually doing anything in furtherance of that. That’s a ridiculous thing to prosecute someone for.
Re: Julian Assange Deserves First Amendment Protection
#20What part of the first amendment exonerates knowingly attempting to crack NTLM keys of US military logins? Or is the reasoning that the law should give him special treatment and exemptions not given to others? Also, is the 1st amendment protection even applicable to foreigners on foreign soil?
Isn’t that essentially the hacking equivalent of jaywalking? Why should it be prosecuted? I can’t really imagine a less serious offense than (maybe) trying and failing to crack hash.
Jaywalking isn't protected by the first amendment.