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Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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jriley: Email me suhail@mixpanel.com -- You just got free Mixpanel, good luck when you launch we're here to help.

This is some of the best and most simplistic advertising and pr I've seen in a while. I've heard of mix panel probably 50 times but this was the first time I clicked through your website to see what you guys are all about. Nice product by the way.

ha me too

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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Appreciate it. I'm actually in Austin though, and eager to meet some like-minded folks. I'll be checking out the local bootstrap chapter to start.

I can speak from experience when I say that Austin's entrepreneurial community is welcoming, supportive, and full of very sharp folks. You should definitely check out the Lean Startup group ( http://www.meetup.com/Austin-Lean-Startup-Circle/ ). Our next meetup is a joint holiday mixer with a lot of other Austin groups (like Austin on Rails), and it promises to be a great way to meet a ton of folks. Also, I'm not sure…

How big is the Austin startup community? Austin seems like a hell of a lot nicer place to live than the Bay Area, but I'm afraid I'd miss the incredible magnitude of the support available to startups here.

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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How did you afford food/rent if you made no money?

The first year of it was spent living with family, paying the bills via some light contract work. At that point, I wasn't really sure of where I wanted to go startup-wise, so I leaned on them for a bit. From there, I moved to Atlanta and into the house of a business partner of mine. Initially, he was working fulltime at a day job while I worked on our product. This lasted for about a year and a half before he left th…

>I'm now living in Manhattan and working for an awesome company, but I still miss the startup life.

When I was finishing college I could not WAIT to get outta there -- what between homework, regular work, and just being plain TIRED of school. The day after I got my degree, I said "man I already miss school!"

How did you feel right after you left your "startup life?"

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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Wow. The Thanksgiving parade was last week Mr. Raincloud. Here's some positive thoughts for you! - Running your own business is quite simply the most rewarding thing you can ever do (professionally at least). - Succeed or fail, you'll come out of it better off than you started. - Don't measure your success by whether TechCrunch writes about you. Measure it by being proud of what you achieve. - Even your biggest failu…

"Succeed or fail, you'll come out of it better off than you started." About half of the comments I read so far have said something to this effect so far, there's only so much a man can take before he needs to speak up ;) : this is bullshit. I know many (as in, 10+) people who started a company and got utterly fucked for the next decade, maybe two, because of its failure; and all they have to show for it is a period o…

> I know many (as in, 10+) people who started a company and got utterly fucked for the next decade, maybe two, because of its failure

Really? That's odd.

Sounds like they didn't know what they were doing.

Did they by any chance spend a lot of money in a field they didn't know anything about and just hoped somehow it will magically work?

Yea, if you're non-technical and you think you can build a product by hiring 10 developers and 4 product managers at 100k/year each, of course you will get utterly fucked.

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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The first year of it was spent living with family, paying the bills via some light contract work. At that point, I wasn't really sure of where I wanted to go startup-wise, so I leaned on them for a bit. From there, I moved to Atlanta and into the house of a business partner of mine. Initially, he was working fulltime at a day job while I worked on our product. This lasted for about a year and a half before he left th…

>I'm now living in Manhattan and working for an awesome company, but I still miss the startup life. When I was finishing college I could not WAIT to get outta there -- what between homework, regular work, and just being plain TIRED of school. The day after I got my degree, I said "man I already miss school!" How did you feel right after you left your "startup life?"

I can't really say for sure, simply because there was no "ok, well, my company is dead" moment -- the company is still going, I'm just not really doing anything. I guess the closest thing was my first day at Matasano, and I was mostly just excited at that point. I miss doing the full-time startup thing, but not so much that I'd jump at the opportunity to do it again right now. I'm sure that I'll get the itch in ~3 years, though.

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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I know many (as in, 10+) people who started a company and got utterly fucked for the next decade, maybe two, because of its failure; and all they have to show for it is a period on their CV that they have to make excuses for at any interview they go to. Why make excuses? Talking about that experience opens the door to discussing just how well suited you are for the job you're interviewing for. Q: I see on your resume…

Could backfire you. There's no guarantee that this is a home-run to get a job. Keep that in mind that the world is not "ideal".

At least they know you're not likely to leave to start your own business ...

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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You might need a lot more than 6 months. But, like my wife always tells me, you don't fail as an entrepreneur until you quit. And the ride is sure worth it. Life is short.

>you don't fail as an entrepreneur until you quit.

I'm not experienced in it, but I imagine that one can fail as an entrepreneur because you didn't quit.

Flogging dead horses and all.

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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how much cash do you have in savings? i'm thinking of doing the same thing.

Living Fat = 3 months, Living Lean = 12+ months. I'll use my 401k but not Roth IRA. Also have some equity/cashflow from a duplex that helps. FWIW, I woke up this morning feeling great on 4 hrs sleep and not worried about money at all - the prior six months mornings were filled with worry and dread.

Good for you man, I did the same about a month ago. Amazing how hard I found getting rid of the golden handcuffs.

Re: Thanks HN: Goodbye, Golden Handcuffs

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Well, it's only good if it's making you money...

Not necessarily. Neither of the sites that have done the most for my quality of life have ever brought in much in the way of direct income. They have, however, put me out there as a guy who's capable of building products like that, which have led to some really good consulting gigs, thus allowing me to keep traveling the world and doing my thing from a laptop. So even though it was years before I hit on the first pro…

They have, however, put me out there as a guy who's capable of building products like that, which have led to some really good consulting gigs, thus allowing me to keep traveling the world and doing my thing from a laptop.

So indirectly it's only good if it's making you money...

:)

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