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Is there a country who's citizens don't think their government is corrupt?

If true this could be because all governments tend toward corruption.

Empires amplify corruption, due to the conquered ressources, territorys and people subverting the usual repair functions of bureaucracy, governments and institutions.

This can escalate enough, to actually make the people "unneeded and a liability".

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

#912
post #748

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Is there a country who's citizens don't think their government is corrupt?

Many North Koreans hold their leadership in high regard

I hold it with such believes as i hold it with all believes whos aphostates could loose their lives. In dubio pro dubio. In my world, there are very few such north koreans and very few moslems - and there where very few catholics in the dark ages.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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What confused me most is that he was arrested twice. It seems non-nonsensical to arrest him a second time (rather than simply charge him), given that he was already in police custody. Does this signify something meaningful, such as a change of which legal basis the arrest is under, and thus a change to the rights he has?

That's because arresting someone isn't so much a matter of their physical custody as initiation of a legal process involving an assertion of custody. Think of it like process serving in civil cases, where it's easy to imagine multiple lawsuits proceeding in parallel.

It's also used as an unofficial form of punishment.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Any possible relation to the arrest of Assange? IMF board approves $4.2 bln financing deal with Ecuador March 11 (Reuters) - The International Monetary Fund’s executive board approved the $4.2 billion financing deal with Ecuador https://www.reuters.com/article/ecuador-imf/imf-board-approv...

Trump is famous for requesting things to "make the deal easier" and then proceeding to ask for even more. So quite possibly Ecuador is going to be finding out fairly soon about additional things they need to do to get those loans.

Are you saying Trump directs the terms of IMF funding?

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Not OP, but if it were my friend (and if I was any kind of friend at all) I wouldn't be dropping his name on a publicly accessible forum so a ton of people can violate his privacy. Might be better to privately exchange the name and then update us with the results without revealing any identity.

Of course, happy to take it via DM and I'd be glad to report back without any identifying information.

HN doesn’t have a DM feature.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I just want to know, from the people who seemed to have turned against Assange, how do you know it's not a concerted disinformation / propaganda campaign to remove all his credibility and reduce public support? By my reckoning It's really hard to know what to even believe about a guy who might credibly be targeted by that.

He did a pretty good job of removing credibility from himself: https://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/6/14179240/wikileaks-russia...

The guy is a paid actor for a murderous totalitarian regime. Literally:

"Assange became a star on Russia Today (RT), Russia’s state-funded English-language propaganda outlet."

"Assange used the WikiLeaks Twitter account to attack the 2016 Panama Papers leaks, which disclosed a $2 billion overseas account of Vladimir Putin’s. Assange labeled the leak a US-sponsored plot to undermine Putin and Russia."

If that doesn't scream "I have no ethics" to you, I'm not sure what will.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #914

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Trump is famous for requesting things to "make the deal easier" and then proceeding to ask for even more. So quite possibly Ecuador is going to be finding out fairly soon about additional things they need to do to get those loans.

Are you saying Trump directs the terms of IMF funding?

No, he's saying Trump and the IMF could be employing similar tactics.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Chelsea Manning, who actually leaked things, is still in prison because of it. Apparently nobody cares.

Actually, she's not in prison - the sentence was commuted. Unfortunately it looks like she might be jailed indefinitely for not testifying for a grand jury :/

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #793

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Agreed, sounds like the friend agreed to sell 100 tabs. Whether or not you actually sell them doesn't matter, I think making the offer to an agent is probably illegal in the same way it's illegal to offer to murder someone for money.

I can't imagine that this is a true story. Which country is throwing someone into jail for 1,5 years for offering to sell someone lsd?

But with US incarceration figures it could be real.

At the end of 2016, the Prison Policy Initiative estimated that in the United States, about 2,298,300 people were incarcerated out of a population of 324.2 million. This means that 0.7% of the population was behind bars. About 1,316,000 people were in state prison, 615,000 in local jails, 225,000 in federal prisons.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_incarceration_...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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If Assange gets extradited on a charge that the previous administration wouldn't push but the administration his organization assisted in getting elected is willing to (because they don't care about such a paltry thing as "endangering the protections provided to freedom of the press by the US Constitution"), it will be the highest of ironies.

The US government is not a monolith, it consists of many competing factions. It's not at all obvious which faction initiated the extradition request, or for what purpose. It's possible this is to pressure Assange to provide evidence in the investigation into Russian influence on the 2016 election. It's also possible this is an attempt to sequester him to prevent disclosure of information about those events. A third p…

> The US government is not a monolith, it consists of many competing factions.

The original comment said "administration", not "government". The current administration IS largely a monolith, given that nearly every high-level cabinet appointee has either been unqualified for the role or are ideologues who appear to have been hired on the basis of their loyalty to the Pres.

- Michael Flynn as National Security Adviser

- Scott Pruit as head of the EPA

- Ben Carson as Sec of Housing

- Rex Tiller as Sec of State

- Herman Cain and Stephen Moore on the board of the Fed

The list goes on an on.

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