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Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by manfredo »

chris_mc wrote: post #21
linuxftw wrote: post #16

You should hear what people say about people that were born and raised in the US South. Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks.

Do people from the South (that aren't a part of traditionally discriminated groups) get discriminated against actively because of their birthplace? Does Joe Redneck lose jobs because he was born in Georgia rather than California? What do those Southerners say about people like me living in San Francisco, CA? Not trying to be aggressive, I just want to know why you think the cultural discrimination against white South…

It had been demonstrated that resumes with country music listed as a pastime get less call backs than resumes with sailing. Some companies also discriminate on the basis of political views, which disproportionately limits the opportunities of southerners (e.g. asking for candidates' opinions on affirmative action program). There's also general disdain and hostility toward conservatives. Open denigration of conservatives is tolerated at my work place and discussion even includes thinly veiled threats of violence at times.

Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by kodz4 »

zarkov99 wrote: post #56
bilbo0s wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are no "approved grouups". What are you talking about? Are you saying you never hear people talk bad about bankers, or frat boys, or jews, or cops, or blacks, or hispanics, etc etc etc? Because if so, I call BS. I also call BS if you try to tell me that everyone you've heard talk bad about, say, bankers or jews, has been fired from their job. Sure, you go up to your boss and tell your jokes about money grubbing…

I envy your perspective. What I see in the news, in academia, in the movie industry, in hiring, basically in the public culture, is very different. This has changed dramatically in the last say 5 years, and I am having trouble understanding how you can argue that in 2019 we can still all make fun of each other freely.

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Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by bilbo0s »

Faramir4k wrote: post #61
bilbo0s wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

BS. I'm in middle of nowhere Wisconsin, and I hear jokes about blacks and handicapped people all the time. When I lived in Houston, it was the same. (Well, mostly about blacks. But still.) If you're telling me you don't, I'm telling you that you're talking out of your posterior orifice.

It is not perfectly acceptable to pick on blacks and handicapped people in the Midwest. Not in 2019.

What part of the Midwest are you in that people don't joke and talk bad about blacks and handicapped people? (Or, indeed, don't joke and talk bad about anyone else.)

Serious question.

Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by taobility »

Cookingboy wrote: post #51
icsllaf wrote: post #42

For how "homogeneous" China is considered, regions often define people more than ethnicity or racial groups. A common greeting that most people ask is "Where are you from?" Both migrant workers and the growing middle class now have the ability to travel anywhere in the country to further their futures. Back in the 70s or even the 90s this mixing of people was pretty much unheard of. Shanghai culture was only in Shang…

>would make the differences between Americans look miniscule. The culture, custom and language difference is definitely more drastic than it is in the U.S. I was somewhat bullied as a young kid in Shanghai because I couldn't speak Shanghainese that well. However value is mostly not as divisive as it is here. I'm talking about the same kind of success is valued and worshipped throughout the country, urban and countrys…

US is more diversity than China definitely. At least in China, most people speak Mandarin, eat noodle and rice. But in US, how many people speak English? Eat Hamburg?

Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by taobility »

bilbo0s wrote: post #46
linuxftw wrote: post #16

You should hear what people say about people that were born and raised in the US South. Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks.

> Seems in some places, it's perfectly (socially) acceptable to pick on others, as long as you're picking on the 'right' group of folks... This is the US. Here, it's perfectly acceptable to pick on everyone . From blacks, and handicapped people, to bankers, and frat boys. You can discriminate against whoever you like here. At least in the jokes and social situations. You should hear what they say about blacks, or gre…

R u living in Liberal's Media?

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Post by zarkov99 »

stcredzero wrote: post #65
zarkov99 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy your perspective. What I see in the news, in academia, in the movie industry, in hiring, basically in the public culture, is very different. This has changed dramatically in the last say 5 years, and I am having trouble understanding how you can argue that in 2019 we can still all make fun of each other freely.

I am having trouble understanding how you can argue that in 2019 we can still all make fun of each other freely. This is evidence that you are in a bubble. The world is a big, diverse, complex place.

Indeed, we probably all live in some sort of bubble, but as far as bubbles go it is a fairly large one, it includes academia, the corporate world, old media, news media, social media, entertainment, education, to name just a few domains. I can still joke around with my high school buddies though, most of them anyway, not Chad, the self righteous prick, so there is that.

Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by zarkov99 »

bilbo0s wrote: post #70
zarkov99 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I envy your perspective. What I see in the news, in academia, in the movie industry, in hiring, basically in the public culture, is very different. This has changed dramatically in the last say 5 years, and I am having trouble understanding how you can argue that in 2019 we can still all make fun of each other freely.

OK man, I see the issue here. You're talking about, "in the news, in academia, in the movie industry, in hiring, basically in the public culture". Whereas I'm talking about how people talk in private social situations. The professional world should be professional, and separate from your private life. (You don't talk to your spouse and kids the way you talk to your coworkers unless something is very, very wrong in on…

If you truly believe you are safe joking at parties, you must be going to some very exclusive parties. More power to you. I wish you continued luck.

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Post by zarkov99 »

chillacy wrote: post #67
zarkov99 wrote: post #48

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Unless you care about your job, your career, your reputation, your personal safety and that of your loved ones. In that case you should make sure you only target approved groups.

I've heard the advice "always punch up, never punch down", at least when you tell these jokes in public.

Indeed, up are approved targets. The trouble is the definition of up changes all the time.

Re: Many Chinese suffer discrimination based on their regional origin

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Post by zarkov99 »

yoz-y wrote: post #64
zarkov99 wrote: post #25

Now if only the Chinese implement quotas, restrictions on speech, affirmative action, diversity initiatives, trigger warnings and identity politics, to protect the discriminated of course, they can look forward to the same harmony, cohesion and mental well being the US currently enjoys.

Disregarding the snark: the Chinese already do apply quotas, affirmative action and diversity initiatives in universities for example.

That is great news for America. Can you share some details?

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Post by donotdoit »

chillacy wrote: post #63
icsllaf wrote: post #42

For how "homogeneous" China is considered, regions often define people more than ethnicity or racial groups. A common greeting that most people ask is "Where are you from?" Both migrant workers and the growing middle class now have the ability to travel anywhere in the country to further their futures. Back in the 70s or even the 90s this mixing of people was pretty much unheard of. Shanghai culture was only in Shang…

I think it's considered homogenous because it's unfamiliar to most Americans. In my travels talking to people from other countries, America often appears homogenous to them (e.g. all Americans have a gun, when in reality only 30-40% of households do).

Love the "only" 30%-40%. What word would you use if it was 80%?, "about half"?
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