>...what tech people realized 20 years ago. OK, but don't forget it has been "tech people" blindly driving us to the edge of dystopia for the purpose getting people to click on stuff.
They are not necessarily the same persons…
Sure, but this is a problem that goes far beyond "tech". There is no technical solution, no killer app which will address it.
Surveillance capitalism and its consequences require a multidisciplinary approach that involves non-tech people in the most critical way.
I think dismissing non-tech people as effectively clueless (as the parent comment does) is the wrong approach.
This was surprisingly weak. Security cameras? Who cares? Here's what we really should be worried about: Google. They know everything . Our browsing history. Probably which porn sites we visit. Our emails. Which services we use. Our passwords (if stored in Chrome). Our schedule. Where we are and where we're going (Maps). Security cameras? Laughable. Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the dan…
> Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the danger lies. Not that it excuses the behaviour of the others of course but Facebook is by far the worst offender in this list. They've been repeatedly and consistently caught misusing the data they collect. At least Google are only using it to sell better targeted advertising (for now). Facebook is also the easiest to avoid.
> Facebook is by far the worst offender in this list
This was surprisingly weak. Security cameras? Who cares? Here's what we really should be worried about: Google. They know everything . Our browsing history. Probably which porn sites we visit. Our emails. Which services we use. Our passwords (if stored in Chrome). Our schedule. Where we are and where we're going (Maps). Security cameras? Laughable. Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the dan…
> Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the danger lies. Not that it excuses the behaviour of the others of course but Facebook is by far the worst offender in this list. They've been repeatedly and consistently caught misusing the data they collect. At least Google are only using it to sell better targeted advertising (for now). Facebook is also the easiest to avoid.
Don't get into wondering which one is better than others. Any large entity that can vacuum up large amounts of data is a problem. Be it Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Apple, Amazon or whoever. Maybe one does better than the other at the moment but the simple fact that they have data gives them the ability to abuse the day later. Nobody should have that much data.
This was surprisingly weak. Security cameras? Who cares? Here's what we really should be worried about: Google. They know everything . Our browsing history. Probably which porn sites we visit. Our emails. Which services we use. Our passwords (if stored in Chrome). Our schedule. Where we are and where we're going (Maps). Security cameras? Laughable. Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the dan…
So switch off them. Fastmail is better than Gmail, Firefox is better than Chrome, DuckDuckGo is pretty good, etc. Even switching some stuff is better than not switching any of it.
Seriously people, Duck Duck Go is fine for most work-a-day search. I occasionally use Google search for some obscure technical stuff, but that's it.
This kinda feels like worrying about how the telephone would allow people to spread rumors and damaging information about each faster and further. Or perhaps discriminate against a potential job applicant based on their voice, instead only getting to see a letter. This feels like a non-tech person has realized what tech people realized 20 years ago. Technology makes everything we do faster and more efficient even if…
> This feels like a non-tech person has realized what tech people realized 20 years ago.
Really? 20 years ago, tech people realized that billions would be carrying electronic devices that pinged their location and constantly phoned home to 6-10 large corporations?
If you're not using JavaScript, there's probably not much a general news publication can tell you about privacy that you don't already know.
Make this "if you're required to use JavaScipt, then there's probably not much a general news publication can tell you that you would like to know and don't already"
Pretty shitty to have absolutely zero keyboard interactivity on that page. Tabbing gets you … the NYT homepage, a bunch of YouTube videos — which you can't even see on the screen — and a "privacy project" link of some sort.
KB navigation works. The response is delayed, probably because part of the "page" were still loading.
Terrible UI, IMO. No signage about how to navigate, except for "Click to Proceed" on the "main" screen.
Why not just create a PowerPoint/Google Slides and be done with it? Probably would have saved the poor design team a ton of time and had the exact same impact.
This was surprisingly weak. Security cameras? Who cares? Here's what we really should be worried about: Google. They know everything . Our browsing history. Probably which porn sites we visit. Our emails. Which services we use. Our passwords (if stored in Chrome). Our schedule. Where we are and where we're going (Maps). Security cameras? Laughable. Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the dan…
So switch off them. Fastmail is better than Gmail, Firefox is better than Chrome, DuckDuckGo is pretty good, etc. Even switching some stuff is better than not switching any of it.
How is it that, say two decades ago, telephone companies or banks would not dare to think about selling their clients' information, but right now it seems like it's the most normal thing in the world? What went wrong? Why do we accept this behavior now?
You're reminiscing about good ol' days that never were. My wife and I got our first mortgage twenty five years ago. The junk mail started arriving almost the next day. Damned straight the banks were selling your information. Every time you wrote down your name and address on a warranty card, a car loan, or anything else, that went into an IBM DB/2 database running on someone's System/38, packaged to be sold to the highest bidder at the first opportunity.
The only reason you might think there is a difference is because the tools got a lot better.
This was surprisingly weak. Security cameras? Who cares? Here's what we really should be worried about: Google. They know everything . Our browsing history. Probably which porn sites we visit. Our emails. Which services we use. Our passwords (if stored in Chrome). Our schedule. Where we are and where we're going (Maps). Security cameras? Laughable. Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the dan…
> Google (and to some extent FB, Microsoft and Amazon) is where the danger lies. Not that it excuses the behaviour of the others of course but Facebook is by far the worst offender in this list. They've been repeatedly and consistently caught misusing the data they collect. At least Google are only using it to sell better targeted advertising (for now). Facebook is also the easiest to avoid.
You can avoid interacting directly with Facebook pretty easily, but how do you stop them from tracking you on third party sites and maintaining a shadow profile for you? They are at least as evil as Google, even if you don’t have an account with them.