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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by vidoc »

nostrademons wrote: post #825
gcb0 wrote: post #773

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Interesting, as the current narrative (on thehill.com, a left-center bias news source no less) is that this is all caused by fears from the Obama administration personnel: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394036-How-Comey-int... Though it is also the narrative on russia propaganda sites https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201806271065837436-comey-as...

TheHill is right-center (although it's right-leaning in the old Bush/Romney sense, not the newer Trump sense): https://www.adfontesmedia.com/product/media-bias-chart-4-0-d...

I think there is a problem in this Matrix as CNN appears very close to the center :) I'm proposing another classification system based on a simple binary checkbox named "Telegraphist of the state department" and I am putting the entirety of mainstream media in it.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by Myrmornis »

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/press-release/file/1153481...

So basically the allegations are primarily that Manning provided Assange with a hashed password, and Assange tried, and failed, to determine the corresponding plain text password. This somehow involved Manning using a Linux OS (off a CD). I'm not clear how a fresh Linux OS would help bypass admin privileges and access a hashed password.

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Manning did not have administrative-level privileges and used special software, namely a Linux operating system, to access the computer file and obtain the portion of the password provided to Assange.

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ACTS IN FURTHERANCE OF THE CONSPIRACY

23. ... Manning copied a Linux operating system to a CD...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by mullen »

pjc50 wrote: post #799
freyir wrote: post #786

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The Nordic countries, New Zealand, Switzerland and Singapore are perceived as least corrupt by experts and in opinion polls. Do the citizens agree?

Norway is doing pretty well for a country with such a large sovereign wealth fund; most places would have had it stolen by now. It seems they just have the ordinary run of scandals: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45173500

I love Norwegian political scandals. Compared to American scandals, they are just nothing but people are held accountable anyways. I would love to see some American politicians career ended because they took their phone to a country they should not have.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by megous »

spaced-out wrote: post #779
megous wrote: post #572

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I only meant to point out that being an informant for occupying force is not some clear cut morally good situation from an outside POV on the informant, when the giving of information leads to: - killing people by bombings - locking people up without usual safety/legal process regards, and torturing them (either directly, or by having a pretty nasty jail) Innocent people are often killed, and locked up. This is not s…

>There's this book, that makes good points about the complexity of the situation in Afghantistan, and the US intervention: Sorry, no. The US has terrible foreign policy, yes, but religious fanatics like the Taliban are a cancer on humanity. They seek to keep women as chattel and murder homosexuals and anyone else that doesn't conform to their insane ideology. Anyone who informs on them is a hero, and people like Assa…

No, to what? The book is not an advocacy for Taliban.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by hardlianotion »

steve19 wrote: post #783
ShorsHammer wrote: post #753

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When has that complicated anything? Being a dual citizen is a huge benefit everywhere on Earth. For anyone with enough resources and time I'd encourage collecting citizenships like they were Pokemon.

Because usually you are treated as being a citizen of the country whose passport you are travelling on. If you flew to China and were arrested of a crime, you are much better off having used your US passport than the Malta passport you purchased, or worse, the Sudanese passport you bribed an official for.

But it's not much use if your other passport is Chinese.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by metalchianti »

emanuensis wrote: post #828
belorn wrote: post #487

I would like to locate all HN comments which said he never would get arrested on behalf of the US, and that Assange objections was all just pretense for trying to escape justice from the UK/Swedish legal system.

Arest footage: https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/media/ruptly-rt-julian-assang... >Russia has long expressed support for Assange. Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs spokesperson Maria Zakharova said in a Facebook post after the arrest that "the hand of 'democracy' squeezes the throat of freedom." Fair. Real time reportage: https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks... >According to the Guardian, after…

I can't make out what he's saying in the video, but maybe something about the "Trump administration?"

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by metalchianti »

fixermark wrote: post #409
discordance wrote: post #254

Despite Julian's character or the surrounding controversies, let's not forget the positive impact Wikileaks made with contributions like Collateral murder [0]. 0: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airst...

Or the release of the Vatican letters.

Or Vault 7.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by Fjolsvith »

rjf72 wrote: post #769
village-idiot wrote: post #425

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Grand Juries have a very high indict rate, especially federal ones, but there’s arguments about why that is. One argument is obviously that grand juries are pushovers and indeed would literally indict a ham sandwich. The other argument, hinted above, is that prosecutors only move to indict if they think they have a chance to win at trial. Since the evidentiary standards are much higher for conviction, that means they…

It's not just that they're pushovers, it's a completely one-sided affair. They only hear from the prosecution (the defendant is not present, let alone granted legal representation) and the prosecution is allowed extensive leeway in attempting to gain the indictment including offering evidence that would not be allowed in trial, such as hearsay [1]. And whether a case can be won or not at trial is a secondary consider…

Having been through the federal criminal system, I can vouch the sentence one can receive after loosing a trial can be ten times longer than one plea bargained for.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by [deleted] »

magnamerc wrote: post #497
tomp wrote: post #473

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> censorship resistant transfer of value But how do you get actual value out of it, i.e. currency? AFAIK most exchanges have pretty strict money laundering rules these days, it's not like Wikileaks could just open an account to liquidate those BTC donations...

There are several ways to bypass exchanges. LocalBitcoins and Bisq are two ways. There are more though.

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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by monocasa »

logifail wrote: post #801
foldr wrote: post #171

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Extraterritoriality of embassies is a myth. Assange was in the UK when he was in the Ecuadorian embassy. However, the UK authorities could not have removed him from the embassy without violating the Vienna Convention.

> Extraterritoriality of embassies is a myth... Along with the myth of not being "in" country X when you're in airside transit on an international-international itinerary through an airport there.

Both are metaphors that hold in some cases, and break down in others.
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