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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by kuzehanka »

checkyoursudo wrote: post #788

Being reported in The Guardian: > Elisabeth Massi Fritz, lawyer for the Swedish woman whose case against Assange remains outstanding, has given the Guardian a longer statement: > "My client and I have today received the news that Assange has been arrested in London. It did understandably come as a shock to my client that what we have been waiting and hoping for since 2012 has now finally happened. We are going to do…

Rape? The charges against him were Sexual Assault for allegedly not using a condom. It's been escalated to rape now?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by pjc50 »

tareqak wrote: post #299
Mvandenbergh wrote: post #91

It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

2) is interesting because going down this path would involve investigating the motivation behind WikiLeaks communicating with the GRU and what WikiLeaks intended to do with the information they obtained once they did so (just a one-shot dump of everything versus strategically-times leaks). The timing of Assange’s arrest occurring a few weeks after the conclusion of the Mueller investigation seems opportune albeit coi…

If we're talking coincidences, I can't get over how this is happening right in the middle of Brexit, and immediately after the successful Cooper-Letwin bill to stave it off further.

Obviously Ecuador has no stake in Brexit directly, but of interest is the Farage connection: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/19/trump-russi...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by sigi45 »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #745
mikeyouse wrote: post #730

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It's very unlikely that the facts resemble anything like that. What's your friends name? I'll happily pay the Pacer fees to see what the charging document says.

Agreed, sounds like the friend agreed to sell 100 tabs. Whether or not you actually sell them doesn't matter, I think making the offer to an agent is probably illegal in the same way it's illegal to offer to murder someone for money.

I can't imagine that this is a true story. Which country is throwing someone into jail for 1,5 years for offering to sell someone lsd?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by CryptoPunk »

IntelMiner wrote: post #418
djsumdog wrote: post #210

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I wish Australia would step up and actually defend one of their citizens.

Australia is run by a bunch of corrupt neoliberal oligarchs burning the place to the ground on the way out the door They have "better" things to do than worry about some "peasant". Like their six figure pensions and lobbying deals

Do you really need to put "neoliberal" in front of oligarch? It imparts on them a commitment to principles that they don't uphold. This is a government that undermines core liberal values like private property rights and privacy rights, with a multitude of financial regulations, surveillance state anti-money-laundering laws, and prohibitions on unrestricted use of encrypted communication.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by mcguire »

giarc wrote: post #696
mcguire wrote: post #690

" Mr Assange, 47, [appeared] at Westminster Magistrates' Court. He pleaded "not guilty" to the 2012 charge of failing to surrender to the court. [...] Finding him guilty, District Judge Michael Snow said Mr Assange's behaviour was "the behaviour of a narcissist who cannot get beyond his own selfish interest". " How does the English justice system work? He was arrested, and almost immediately taken to court and convic…

I have no idea, but the charge was failure to surrender. It's pretty obvious, 7 years later, that he is guilty of that.

Maybe.

My understanding is that failing to surrender to an illegal warrant would not itself be a crime. Unless Assange has accepted that the surrender order was valid or he has been previously convicted in absentia, he would seem to need a court proceeding to argue that.

Unless seeking asylum from a country is automatically illegal. Imagine the international hijinks if an Australian went to the British consul in Moscow for asylum at the height of the cold war, and the Soviets charged him for that itself....

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by spaced-out »

tingol wrote: post #216
matt4077 wrote: post #186

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And I can't understand how so many people stay loyal to a guy who just wasted seven years of his life in a self-imposed prison with absolutely no upside except delaying whatever awaits him now. Or how many will, when given a choice between: (a) a wild conspiracies theories about a totally-average Swedish woman being paid by the CIA to make up some not even that damning rape charges, then asks him for an $20/5min STD…

You are delusional. You talk about him like he's your creepy neighbor from the street. This guy messed with dangerous people for the sake of truth. He is being prosecuted by the most powerful country in the world with by far the most reach outside its own borders. All his trouble began after he leaked US butchery in Iraq. You think his self-imposed exile is an egotistical act instead of what it really is: Step outsid…

>This guy messed with dangerous people for the sake of truth.

This guy colluded with racist sleeze-bags like Sean Hannity and Donald Trump Jr. to bring fascism back to the mainstream. Whatever fate awaits him is more than he deserves.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by sieabahlpark »

kuzehanka wrote: post #791
checkyoursudo wrote: post #788

Being reported in The Guardian: > Elisabeth Massi Fritz, lawyer for the Swedish woman whose case against Assange remains outstanding, has given the Guardian a longer statement: > "My client and I have today received the news that Assange has been arrested in London. It did understandably come as a shock to my client that what we have been waiting and hoping for since 2012 has now finally happened. We are going to do…

Rape? The charges against him were Sexual Assault for allegedly not using a condom. It's been escalated to rape now?

I saw someone mention rape on Reddit so that's probably where they got the info.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by Crosseye_Jack »

Navarr wrote: post #607
johnnycab wrote: post #339

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>It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. Scotland Yard has confirmed that Assange was arrested on behalf of the US after receiving a request for his extradition. https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks... Edit: Indictment: https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charg...

"5 years." Isn't he facing 10 years in UK for fleeing on bail? Does US extradite him, trial him, (jail him?) and then ship him off to the UK to serve his time there?

> Isn't he facing 10 years in UK for fleeing on bail?

IIRC it's up to 12 months for basically contempt of court / failing to surrender.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by pjc50 »

freyir wrote: post #786
collyw wrote: post #748

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Is there a country who's citizens don't think their government is corrupt?

The Nordic countries, New Zealand, Switzerland and Singapore are perceived as least corrupt by experts and in opinion polls. Do the citizens agree?

Norway is doing pretty well for a country with such a large sovereign wealth fund; most places would have had it stolen by now. It seems they just have the ordinary run of scandals: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45173500

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by kmkemp »

mc32 wrote: post #780
gcb0 wrote: post #773

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Interesting, as the current narrative (on thehill.com, a left-center bias news source no less) is that this is all caused by fears from the Obama administration personnel: https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/394036-How-Comey-int... Though it is also the narrative on russia propaganda sites https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201806271065837436-comey-as...

It’s odd, I just heard Greenwald pinning it on the Trump admin. Not the legacy of of Obama’s DoJ. I guess he’d like to see Trump personally involved to rescind the prev DoJ indictment? Also international left is still on his side defending him, but thd US left want to see him hung out to dry. Interesting split.

Odd, that's not my impression. Seems like the center (on both sides) and non-libertarian right want to see him in jail.
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