Julian Assange arrested in London

Post by dang » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:01 PM UTC

criley2 wrote: post #594

shawnz wrote: post #525

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Have you considered that Assange's supporters don't think he is pro-fascist or that he hates the US? Why don't you try justifying those points instead of just calling everyone here pro-fascist like it's so obvious?

The truth doesn't require them to believe in it. Their support for Russian Military intellience operations including Wikileaks is support for an authoritaritarian war against Europe and US with the goal of overthrowing our liberal democracies. I understand that the anarcho-hacker types hate all governments and have been tricked through cheap propaganda into thinking Wikileaks is a non-nation-state actor that is on th…

Post by PatrolX » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:02 PM UTC

Mvandenbergh wrote: post #91

It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

Post by rurban » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:04 PM UTC

qnsi wrote: post #676

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #274

and considering the public mood after a several year campaign to demonize Wikileaks and Assange by the US media, chances are pretty high that he will rot in a US prison for life or have his ashes thrown into the sea the same way as they did with Osama bin Laden. The US is a terror state that uses torture and secret prisons. I hope that EU countries will stop extradition asap.

Why would EU support Russian asset?

Post by Stuckinsofa » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

patrickaljord wrote: post #348

lucozade wrote: post #177

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He hasn't been arrested for seeking asylum. He's been arrested for jumping bail. He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges. He sought asylum the moment he knew he would have to face those charges. So you're correct. Seeking asylum isn't the same as being above the law. It's the same as avoiding being subject to the law. I can't say I see the distinction as being especially material.

> He was on bail facing extradition for rape and sexual molestation charges Just to be precise the actual charge is that he was accused of having sex without a condom without telling his partner.

Post by dang » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 3:05 PM UTC

acct1771 wrote: post #448

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- By everything I've read of his behaviour, even before he became famous, the accusations seemed to be very much his style - The specifics, i. e. secretly removing the condom, seem to invite all sorts of "that's not rape" opinions, making them a rather bad choice compared to stereotypical violent rape. - The supposed CIA connection of the accuser is a laughable 10-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon connection involving her atten…

This is incredibly ill-informed, or very carefully constructed disinformation, and I'm uncomfortable that I can't tel the difference. For example: there were many illegal, suggestions of illegal, and offensive things in those, and related, email leaks, for supporters and detractors of HRC. > If you're intent to discredit Assange among his fanbase, which is largely young, male, and online: isn't rape actually the wors…