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Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

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Re: Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

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Post by ncmncm »

This is fundamentally the wrong direction to go.

The clue is that MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware. The way forward is to boot Linux, or even something else, to manage hardware, memory, and filesystems, and cut down MSWin to run in a container on it. That way MSWin relies on the underlying OS to do things MSWin has proven to be just not very good at. MSWin runs programs written for it, reliably the same as non-hosted MSW, but is not subject to randomizing effects of manufacturers' drivers and MS's historically poor buffer and process management.

If you want MSWin to manage the screen, it can provide a way for an underlying OS program to work in a window it provides, and connect UI and clipboard events back to it. But MSWin is not really so great at display management, either, so it might be better for the underlying OS to manage that, too, as is done with VMs on X today.

Re: Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

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Post by maccio92 »

ncmncm wrote: post #4

This is fundamentally the wrong direction to go. The clue is that MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware. The way forward is to boot Linux, or even something else, to manage hardware, memory, and filesystems, and cut down MSWin to run in a container on it. That way MSWin relies on the underlying OS to do things MSWin has proven to be just not very good at. MSWin runs programs written for it, reliab…

I always have difficulties with drivers on linux. Never on Windows. Until they fix that I cannot use anything other than windows as my base system. I don't care if linux handles things slightly better

Re: Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

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Post by fartcannon »

maccio92 wrote: post #5
ncmncm wrote: post #4

This is fundamentally the wrong direction to go. The clue is that MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware. The way forward is to boot Linux, or even something else, to manage hardware, memory, and filesystems, and cut down MSWin to run in a container on it. That way MSWin relies on the underlying OS to do things MSWin has proven to be just not very good at. MSWin runs programs written for it, reliab…

I always have difficulties with drivers on linux. Never on Windows. Until they fix that I cannot use anything other than windows as my base system. I don't care if linux handles things slightly better

There's nothing to fix. The devices are either open and a dev has decided to write his own, or the devices are closed and the drivers are provided by their respective creators.

If it's the former, pay a dev, if it's the latter, use a different device.

Re: Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

#9

Post by andyonthewings »

ncmncm wrote: post #4

This is fundamentally the wrong direction to go. The clue is that MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware. The way forward is to boot Linux, or even something else, to manage hardware, memory, and filesystems, and cut down MSWin to run in a container on it. That way MSWin relies on the underlying OS to do things MSWin has proven to be just not very good at. MSWin runs programs written for it, reliab…

> MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware.

That's funny. I didn't know that. Any data source you can share with me?

Re: Pengwin – A Linux Distro Optimized for WSL Based on Debian

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Post by glitchc »

ncmncm wrote: post #4

This is fundamentally the wrong direction to go. The clue is that MSWin running in a VM on Linux is faster than on hardware. The way forward is to boot Linux, or even something else, to manage hardware, memory, and filesystems, and cut down MSWin to run in a container on it. That way MSWin relies on the underlying OS to do things MSWin has proven to be just not very good at. MSWin runs programs written for it, reliab…

I don’t believe your assertion. A quick check on the latest system-taxing application (aka a game), confirms the exact opposite. Even a cross-platform game, compiled natively for both OSes, runs faster on Windows in most cases. How do you square these observations with your assertion.
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