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Julian Assange arrested in London

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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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This mean that the single most expensive police case in the history of UK will have an end. It will be interesting to see the final price tag in respect to the final verdict.

Meanwhile the reported Brexit will cost 6 billions euros in additional membership fees.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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post #71

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Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with a corrupted politician and US pressure. It's just finally safe for him to face his rape charges. /s

From all accounts it's to do with Assange's behaviour. Helping to elect Trump and being an annoying guest is not something that helps people like you.

Why do people keep saying that he helped elect trump. Because he exposed lies and corruption of another candidate? Are people still bitter and upset at the 2016 elections?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Very sad day. Remember this all started with the leak of the "Collateral murder" video. That's when the Interpol notice went out, and he had to seek asylum at the embassy. It was already quite disgusting how powerful entities were able to seemingly fabricate sexual charges as needed. Later on he made very influential enemies by exposing corruption in the democratic political party. Instead of any follow up on that fr…

>> It was already quite disgusting how powerful entities were able to seemingly fabricate sexual charges as needed.

The sexual charges really don't look fabricated or to have had any political motive at all. The wikipedia article on the allegations (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange#Swedish_sexual_...) makes it clear that the charges were dropped after Assange was initially questioned by the police, then a special prosecutor reopened the case.

It's not unlikely that the special prosecutor had a political motivation for reopening the case, but it's not at all clear that the women who made the original allegations did.

From my reading anyway, Assange crossed a line, perhaps not realising that what he was doing was sexual assault, molestation and "lesser rape" under Swedish law, and he would have gotten away with it if he wasn't Assange, which makes the special prosecutor's reopening the case suspicious. But I can't see any fabrication here. Nobody forced Assange to do what he did (which, as I remember it, was to initiate sex with a sleeping woman who therefore could not give consent). The women who accused him were well within their rights to do so.

He just screwed up bad and that made him vulnerable to political persecution.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Very sad day. Remember this all started with the leak of the "Collateral murder" video. That's when the Interpol notice went out, and he had to seek asylum at the embassy. It was already quite disgusting how powerful entities were able to seemingly fabricate sexual charges as needed. Later on he made very influential enemies by exposing corruption in the democratic political party. Instead of any follow up on that fr…

Interesting take on cheating on old doctoral work. However, this case had no 'national security' concern, nothing worth covering up. Instead it is a chance to maybe take out a political rival.

It's true that the german military is under constant scrutiny, but a lot of bad stuff has been covered up in Germany as well, especially in the world of sexual abuse by churches and institutions that is being uncovered in slow-motion these days.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

Skipping bail; failing to surrender to the court after he was previously released on bail. The sexual assault case against him in Sweden has since been dropped, but the warrant for skipping bail is still active.

breaching bail is not actually a criminal offence

https://greenandblackcross.org/guides/should-i-ignore-police...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I just want to know, from the people who seemed to have turned against Assange, how do you know it's not a concerted disinformation / propaganda campaign to remove all his credibility and reduce public support? By my reckoning It's really hard to know what to even believe about a guy who might credibly be targeted by that.

The problem is that it works both ways.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Well, this certainly makes some of us look a bit stupid after criticizing him for crying wolf a few days ago.

He was wanted by British police for jumping bail, why wouldn't they arrest him?

Reload the page for the news of his extradition

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"UK has no sovereignty!" "UK must resist" "Resist this attempt by the Trump administration" and something else when he's in the van which I can't make out with people talking over it.

> "Resist this attempt by the Trump administration" Funny. Trump has said he loves WikiLeaks, and likely has no interest in Assange getting extradited to the US.

funny? probably not.

And as for no interest in extraditing him, he was arrested in response to a US extradition request.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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I just want to know, from the people who seemed to have turned against Assange, how do you know it's not a concerted disinformation / propaganda campaign to remove all his credibility and reduce public support? By my reckoning It's really hard to know what to even believe about a guy who might credibly be targeted by that.

- By everything I've read of his behaviour, even before he became famous, the accusations seemed to be very much his style - The specifics, i. e. secretly removing the condom, seem to invite all sorts of "that's not rape" opinions, making them a rather bad choice compared to stereotypical violent rape. - The supposed CIA connection of the accuser is a laughable 10-degrees-of-Kevin-Bacon connection involving her atten…

The diplomatic cables were borderline? Really?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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What you've heard is false. The investigation was dropped simply because there was no way to proceed with the investigation with him still hiding away in the embassy. The investigation will be reopened if he returns to Sweden before August 2020 when the statute of limitations expires for the minor rape allegation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

Sweden doesn't have trials in absentia? Judging by this document( https://rm.coe.int/168058f4b0 ), they do: ------------------------------------------- Chapter 46 (proceedings in the district courts) Section 15 a If the matter can be satisfactorily investigated, the case may be adjudicated notwithstanding the fact that the defendant has appeared only by counsel or has failed to appear if: 1. there is no grounds to im…

This is correct according to the text of the law.

However, according to precedents the criteria “the matter can be satisfactorily investigated” is not easily satisfied in case of serious crime that is contested (see the court case RH 2011:4).

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