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Julian Assange arrested in London

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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Did the people who stood bail for him get their money back when he went awol?

Isn't the point of bail precisely that you don't get the money back if you don't show up?

Ken Loach and John Pilger probably didn't plan on him skipping bail. I think you can plead, but yea. It's probably gone.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

I wish Australia would step up and actually defend one of their citizens.

America's backward hillbilly lapdog? don't hold your breath.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Is it in the interests of European governments for the US government to spy on European governments and citizens? Cool-cool-cool.

It's in the interests of European governments to continue a good relationship with the US government, obviously. That's what "allied" means.

In the same way it's in the interests of shop-owners to continue a good relationship with the mafia. During the cold war, if an "ally" didn't have a good relationship, they could see their government undermined, pressured in all kinds of ways, or even toppled with their support. Not much different today, though it's less in the open.

"Allied" can mean a lot of things, but it can also be forced upon populations, have them dragged into wars for your side's interests, and so on. Not everything is what it writes on the tin.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Wow. Do you have a link?

Okay maybe I should't be joking on this, it's the plot of the movie called "Enemy of the State". Nice movie.

That scene was likely somewhat inspired by the conspiracy theories about Vince Foster.

Foster was found dead in Fort Marcy Park, a federal park in Virginia.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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The comments here disgust me. People here used to have some principles, now there's so many people just repeating establishment talking points.

I don't know to what you're referring, but the facts of the matter are:

1. He was wanted for questioning for rape and sexual misconduct in Sweden. According to police records, he had sex with a woman who demanded that he wore a condom, which he did at first. Then next morning she wakes up by him penetrating her without consent. She then asks "are you wearing anything", to which he replies "I'm wearing you". The sexual misconduct charges are dropped due to statutes of limitations, and the rape case is dormant due to low probablility of resolving it. Maybe they will open it up again.

2. Assange fought the extraditions through several UK courts. He had multiple chances do defend himself, and lost every one. He lost a high court appeal, then when the supreme court upheld that decision he fled to Ecuador.

3. He claimed that his reason to do so was to avoid extradition to the US, but Sweden wasn't allowed to extradite him without UK's permission first [0]. He could've gone to Sweden and face the charges, and avoided this whole thing. But he had to make himself look like a victim of a conspiracy instead, and his followers eats it up.

He's been in self imposed custody because he refused to accept the lawful rulings of two democracies, and Wikileaks has promoted conspiracies like Pizza gate and Qanon, they are not a poor organization to fight for freedom of speech.

[0] https://www.aklagare.se/en/nyheter--press/media/the-assange-...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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You'd think that after the stupid Russian collusion story was dismantled by the recent Mueller report, people would be a little more careful with such paranoid allegations, but here we go...

You mean the Mueller report that hasn't been released yet?

Lol.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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What you've heard is false. The investigation was dropped simply because there was no way to proceed with the investigation with him still hiding away in the embassy. The investigation will be reopened if he returns to Sweden before August 2020 when the statute of limitations expires for the minor rape allegation. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39973864

No, they chose not to interview him at the embassy or via weblink, because had they done so, the case would have been closed. They rather keep it open.

The police in Sweden and every other country would save so much money if they could just ask the suspected criminals to be interviewed over skype instead of having to fetch them and take them to a police station. Or why not ask the person to be interviewed where they want it to happen and the police can come to them, with the prosecutor.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

The state prosecutor accused him of being a rapist. The alleged victim didn't accuse him of anything and only went to the police in an attempt to contact him to tell him to be tested for STDs since the condom broke. The state prosecutor found a way to twist that into a rape charge under Sweden's laws, even though the purported victim disagreed. Those charges were later dropped. The only "crime" he committed was refus…

He did not "flee" the country - he asked and was allowed to leave - the rape case was later reopened while he was in the UK and a European arrest warrant was issued by Sweden.

That was extremely strange and suspicious so he resisted the extradition first legally then by fleeing into the embassy. And in there he deteriorated greatly - spiraled into conspiracy and paranoia.

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