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Julian Assange arrested in London

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This mean that the single most expensive police case in the history of UK will have an end. It will be interesting to see the final price tag in respect to the final verdict.

I wonder if the expense was solely borne by the UK taxpayer or if foreign interests helped finance it.

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> Ecuadorian embassy withdrew his asylum and UK police were invited in to arrest him. According to a journalist at Sky news https://twitter.com/NewsTMac/status/1116274082922803200

no doubt he will be extradited to the US. This has been the game plan all along. Free press my ass. The UK and US are fucking banana republics. The problem is that thanks to them controlling the biggest propaganda machine which has ever existed, their stinky ideas constantly rub off on other Western countries. Anyone from the US still pointing the finger at China or Russia for being non democratic, not free, backward…

>no doubt he will be extradited to the US. This has been the game plan all along.

I thought the game plan was to extradite him from Sweden via false rape allegations because it was too difficult to extradite him from the UK?

Assange apologists are remarkably facile at respinning their conspiracy theories to adapt to the circumstances.

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Assange was arrested just 1 day after Russian president Putin met with Swedish PM Löfven. https://www.thelocal.se/20190410/heres-what-stefan-lfven-and...

Few if anyone on Sweden care about this. It's a normal rape case albeit with a celebrity in it. It should go through the normal process. Hardly something Putin would discuss with Löfven.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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It will be interesting to see if the US tries to extradite him. It's actually not 100% clear that he's broken any US laws in any ways that they aren't also routinely broken by newspapers. There's a few avenues: 1) Publishing classified information. Easy to show that he did this but a very difficult path to go down when American newspapers do this all the time. 2) Conspiracy to commit espionage. Probably the most like…

America could have just as easily extradited him from the UK as from Sweden.

More easily. The UK has extradited people to the US on questionable grounds before. I don't think Sweden has.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Well, they _did_ warn him about the cat litter issue.

All jest aside, I wonder what he could have done differently (not taking sides here, just speculating).

One option would have been to live among the public in the UK, and let himself be extradited to Sweden, then the US. This act alone would have drawn attention to the fact that people in the EU can - under some circumstances - be extradited to the US, which would have been alarming to the general populace in Europe since the US still has the death penalty. The possibility that he would have been imprisoned in Sweden instead would have been weighed against indefinite house arrest in the Ecuadorian embassy - for 7 years in this case.

In any event, I think we'll learn quite a bit about international relations work in practice.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murde…

He wasn't arrested for that specific video.

Of course, he was arrested on completely unrelated bogus charges, so that we never have to have the conversation about whether or not he deserves prison for whistle-blowing.

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The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges.

>The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges. Charges (which were ridiculous to begin with) were dropped. >The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges. That's horrible, but what I expect. Extradi…

Why were the charges ridiculous?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

no doubt he will be extradited to the US. This has been the game plan all along. Free press my ass. The UK and US are fucking banana republics. The problem is that thanks to them controlling the biggest propaganda machine which has ever existed, their stinky ideas constantly rub off on other Western countries. Anyone from the US still pointing the finger at China or Russia for being non democratic, not free, backward…

Free press does not mean it's free from any agenda. Rather, it means that anyone with an agenda has the freedom to express their point of view. The main idea that the only agenda accepted publicly are not those presented by the government, hence making the intellectual atmosphere a bit more robust and less sterile. The point why "western press is better than russias" is not about truth but rather inviting an atmosphe…

> but rather inviting an atmosphere where many voices can be heard.

yes? please do tell that to those sitting in US secret prisons around the world. Or those that have been released innocent from gitmo after many years into banana republics like Kazakhstan without apology and are there under constant surveillance.

of course the US isn't a dictatorship provided that your views are in-line with their propaganda.

Assange gave the sheeple of the US a good look behind the curtain of their own corrupt criminal governments. The public there is too fucking stupid unfortunately and overly brainwashed from their propaganda.

I literally cried when I watched 9/11 unfold (and I'm not American). Next time this happens I won't waste my empathy.

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Julian Assange used to be hailed as a hero for exposing American hypocrisy, but with the secretive way wikileaks operated and the track record of anti-US releases, perhaps it was only a matter of time before Assange and wikileaks were used as pawns for geopolitics. Still, I'm curious when did Assange willingly start working for Russia --- was it from the very beginning, or was it after his legal troubles? I wonder wh…

You'd think that after the stupid Russian collusion story was dismantled by the recent Mueller report, people would be a little more careful with such paranoid allegations, but here we go...

> after the stupid Russian collusion story was dismantled by the recent Mueller report

Hardly anyone has actually read the full 400 page report. And "collusion" has a specific legal meaning which can easily be skirted by a whole raft of plausible deniability methods - Mueller is a stickler; he's almost certainly not going to say "collusion" happened unless he has definitive proof that would hold up in court.

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