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Julian Assange arrested in London

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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by anoncake »

stupidcar wrote: post #68
lazyjones wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-refoulement

It says it applies to the generic repatriation of refugees, not the specific repatriation of a political asylum seeker like Assange. There's also no evidence that Assange faces political persecution in the UK. His stated concern is about extradition to the USA, in which case he should apply for political asylum in the UK.

> His stated concern is about extradition to the USA, in which case he should apply for political asylum in the UK.

If I faced extradition to the USA, I am not sure if I would trust the UK to protect me.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by notahacker »

cedivad wrote: post #92
threeseed wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From all accounts it's to do with Assange's behaviour. Helping to elect Trump and being an annoying guest is not something that helps people like you.

I'm honestly out of the loop. Is there concrete irrefutable evidence Assange helped electing Trump? Seems weird, even more so with them then turning around and pushing for his arrest. And being an annoying guest? Are you talking about the new rules introduced by the embassy only to be looked at later saying "you broke them"?

Whether anything Assange did was actually decisive in Trump's election is a pretty speculative question, but we do have leaked transcripts of his messages to Donald Trump Jr...

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by askmike »

toby- wrote: post #79
fxbl0i wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

Skipping bail; failing to surrender to the court after he was previously released on bail. The sexual assault case against him in Sweden has since been dropped, but the warrant for skipping bail is still active.

Though given his situation and the quite likely extradition to the US, who wouldn't have done the same? Technically something criminal but..

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by fifnir »

rudiv wrote: post #53
rudiv wrote: post #45

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

Reading the rest of the comments, it's surprising that so many people seem to have reduced WikiLeaks & Assange to 'co-conspirators with the President'. They've been around before the 2016 election.

But on the biggest issue of american politics of the last 50 years, he has found himself (chosen?) on the wrong side of history

If you hear trump talk for two minutes and you don't immediately realize the danger and what he represents, you might be too cynical

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by pcnix »

lazyjones wrote: post #60
purpleslurple wrote: post #38

Julian Assange used to be hailed as a hero for exposing American hypocrisy, but with the secretive way wikileaks operated and the track record of anti-US releases, perhaps it was only a matter of time before Assange and wikileaks were used as pawns for geopolitics. Still, I'm curious when did Assange willingly start working for Russia --- was it from the very beginning, or was it after his legal troubles? I wonder wh…

You'd think that after the stupid Russian collusion story was dismantled by the recent Mueller report, people would be a little more careful with such paranoid allegations, but here we go...

You mean the Mueller report that hasn't been released yet?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by yreg »

antocv wrote: post #90

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July_12,_2007,_Baghdad_airstri... "Apache pilots watched people run into a building and engaged that building with several AGM-114 Hellfire missiles." "controversy following the release of 39 minutes of gunsight footage by leaks website WikiLeaks." "Press reports of the number killed vary from 12[1][2] to "over 18".[3][4] 2 journalists were killed, and 2 children were wounded." The murde…

He wasn't arrested for that specific video.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by matt4077 »

rudiv wrote: post #45

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

The UK is unlikely to extradite without assurances that the death penalty will not be applied, which is doubtful in any case.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by fiblye »

cedivad wrote: post #92
threeseed wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From all accounts it's to do with Assange's behaviour. Helping to elect Trump and being an annoying guest is not something that helps people like you.

I'm honestly out of the loop. Is there concrete irrefutable evidence Assange helped electing Trump? Seems weird, even more so with them then turning around and pushing for his arrest. And being an annoying guest? Are you talking about the new rules introduced by the embassy only to be looked at later saying "you broke them"?

The claim is based on Wikileaks offering up information that portrays the US negatively, but little to nothing that does the same against Russia.

From there, linked with the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory, claims of them supporting the Trump campaign came to be.

Regardless of your opinion on Trump, I’m not sure that offering up one-sided info that benefits or hurts a candidate is or should be an arrestable offense. Entire television news networks do it.

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