Julian Assange arrested in London • Hacker News Board

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by cedivad » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #29

skilled wrote: post #3

> URGENT: Ecuador has illegally terminated Assange political asylum in violation of international law. He was arrested by the British police inside the Ecuadorian embassy minutes ago. Source: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960 Holy moly, this will be interesting! EDIT: If you're interested, here's a video of him being escorted out of the embassy -- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/111628109…

Of course Ecuador can revoke asylum. It's very common practice around the world if a person's circumstances change and their original country is now safe. Likewise if Ecuador believes that there is no longer a threat to Assange they can revoke it.

Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with a corrupted politician and US pressure. It's just finally safe for him to face his rape charges. /s

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by mezod » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

I'm simply so disappointed about 90% of the comments in this thread. I really thought you people had some f. values.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by 0x54D5 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

fxbl0i wrote: post #57

tramtrist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also feel the same way. He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking but to say we all didn't benefit from what we learned regarding how our government spies on us would just be flat out wrong..

What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

He skipped bail. That is a crime. He literally locked himself up for 7 years for something that in the UK would never have been as severe as 7 years of imprisonment.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by DavidVoid » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

welly wrote: post #20

chvid wrote: post #12

About time. It will be good see his case brought before the courts whatever they will be in the US, UK, Sweden ... staying in the embassy for so many years is just absurd.

What case? The sexual assault charge in Sweden was dropped. Or are you talking about the USA wanting their day in court with him?

They weren't fully dropped. The investigation will continue if he enters Sweden before August 2020 when the statute of limitations expires for the last remaining allegation (minor rape).

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by DyslexicAtheist » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

rudiv wrote: post #58

hardlianotion wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which is strange as the UK had little skin in the game to begin with

I think trying to maintain the 'special relationship' is their skin in the game.

the word lapdog or poodle comes to mind.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by fsloth » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #22

jackweirdy wrote: post #2

> Ecuadorian embassy withdrew his asylum and UK police were invited in to arrest him. According to a journalist at Sky news https://twitter.com/NewsTMac/status/1116274082922803200

no doubt he will be extradited to the US. This has been the game plan all along. Free press my ass. The UK and US are fucking banana republics. The problem is that thanks to them controlling the biggest propaganda machine which has ever existed, their stinky ideas constantly rub off on other Western countries. Anyone from the US still pointing the finger at China or Russia for being non democratic, not free, backward…

Free press does not mean it's free from any agenda. Rather, it means that anyone with an agenda has the freedom to express their point of view.

The main idea that the only agenda accepted publicly are not those presented by the government, hence making the intellectual atmosphere a bit more robust and less sterile.

The point why "western press is better than russias" is not about truth but rather inviting an atmosphere where many voices can be heard.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by matthewmacleod » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

rudiv wrote: post #45

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

Neither the UK nor Sweden is legally able to extradite to countries where there is a risk of the death penalty being applied.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by josteink » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:05 AM UTC

fxbl0i wrote: post #57

tramtrist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also feel the same way. He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking but to say we all didn't benefit from what we learned regarding how our government spies on us would just be flat out wrong..

What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

Fleeing the arrest for fake rape-allegations staged by the CIA.

I can’t see why anyone would do that if they valued their own personal security. /s

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by toby- » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:06 AM UTC

fxbl0i wrote: post #57

tramtrist wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I also feel the same way. He may have committed some heinous crimes outside of the actual hacking/leaking but to say we all didn't benefit from what we learned regarding how our government spies on us would just be flat out wrong..

What crimes did he commit? Honest question. I heard that someone accused him of being a rapist but then dropped the charges so I guess it was false. What else is there?

Skipping bail; failing to surrender to the court after he was previously released on bail. The sexual assault case against him in Sweden has since been dropped, but the warrant for skipping bail is still active.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by threeseed » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 10:06 AM UTC

cedivad wrote: post #71

threeseed wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course Ecuador can revoke asylum. It's very common practice around the world if a person's circumstances change and their original country is now safe. Likewise if Ecuador believes that there is no longer a threat to Assange they can revoke it.

Yeah, absolutely nothing to do with a corrupted politician and US pressure. It's just finally safe for him to face his rape charges. /s

From all accounts it's to do with Assange's behaviour.

Helping to elect Trump and being an annoying guest is not something that helps people like you.