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Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by chvid » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:55 AM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #16

chvid wrote: post #12

About time. It will be good see his case brought before the courts whatever they will be in the US, UK, Sweden ... staying in the embassy for so many years is just absurd.

And what case would that be? The case in Sweden was dropped for example.

I don't know if the rape case in Sweden can be reopened. But I suppose the US wants him in relation to the Russian election meddling investigation plus other cases and I suppose for him to be extradited he will first appear before a UK court.

There are obviously open cases as he has been arrested.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by hardlianotion » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

dpwm wrote: post #31

thrax wrote: post #6

Good.

Care to elaborate? There's many ways this could be a "good" thing: exposing the farce of international law when the US government and military claim global jurisdiction over a man who never set foot there seems just one of them.

As far as we know, there is no extradition case in place.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by antt » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:56 AM UTC

no1youknowz wrote: post #9

I wonder if the WikiLeaks "Dead Man's Switch" will be triggered this time? I know there were some news articles in the last couple of years of this being the case...

I believe it was when he was sentenced?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by engineeringwoke » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

skilled wrote: post #3

> URGENT: Ecuador has illegally terminated Assange political asylum in violation of international law. He was arrested by the British police inside the Ecuadorian embassy minutes ago. Source: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960 Holy moly, this will be interesting! EDIT: If you're interested, here's a video of him being escorted out of the embassy -- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/111628109…

International law isn't enforcable, really. It would be great if it were, but why would sovereigns give up absolute control of their legal systems?

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by rudiv » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

RIP. It's only a matter of time before he's extradited, and I would think the current US government would definitely push for the death penalty under the Espionage Act. I suppose it's little solace that he'll join a long list of illustrious names prosecuted under that infamous act. (Emma Goldman, Eugene Debs, Victor Berger, Chelsea Manning, Edward Snowden)

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by antt » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:57 AM UTC

hardlianotion wrote: post #33

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

no doubt he will be extradited to the US. This has been the game plan all along. Free press my ass. The UK and US are fucking banana republics. The problem is that thanks to them controlling the biggest propaganda machine which has ever existed, their stinky ideas constantly rub off on other Western countries. Anyone from the US still pointing the finger at China or Russia for being non democratic, not free, backward…

He jumped bail while accused of a serious crime. Not sure what you are looking for here.

And the crime was dropped.

This reminds me of being arrested for resisting arrest.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by envy2 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:58 AM UTC

malms wrote: post #27

peteretep wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> to a country in which they would be in likely danger of persecution based on "race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion" Which, precisely, of these categories do you think he fits under here?

membership of a particular social group or political opinion

I'm relatively neutral on Wikileaks/Assange, but this is a stretch. I don't think "illegally leaking documents" counts as a political opinion any more than I should be entitled to asylum because I have a "political opinion" that MDMA synthesis should be legal and got caught for engaging in it.

That's intended to cover things like persecution solely for being a member of a political party.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by AnaniasAnanas » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:58 AM UTC

The "moral" course of events would be for him to receive a fair trial in the UK or Sweden concerning the rape and possibly the contempt of court charges.

The "immoral" course of evens would be if he was extradited to the US or some other country, receive an unfair trial, or having to defend against other charges.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:58 AM UTC

belorn wrote: post #17

chronogram wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fumigate? Does he smoke or something?

They might be referring to the fact he had a cat, but then I doubt people fumigate all apartments where the previous owner has a cat. If that had been the case then cat ownership would carry a bit higher rent.

I have heard that Assange let his cat shit everywhere and didn't clean up after it, FWIW. Perhaps that's what the comment was referencing.

Re: Julian Assange arrested in London

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Post by anoncake » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 9:58 AM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #5

skilled wrote: post #3

> URGENT: Ecuador has illegally terminated Assange political asylum in violation of international law. He was arrested by the British police inside the Ecuadorian embassy minutes ago. Source: https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1116273826621480960 Holy moly, this will be interesting! EDIT: If you're interested, here's a video of him being escorted out of the embassy -- https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/111628109…

“illegally terminated” That’s not how that works

Revoking his asylum could be in violation of Ecuadorian law.

(But IANAL specialized in Ecuadorian asylum law)