The Urgent Quest for Slower, Better News

Post by manfredo » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 5:17 AM UTC

enraged_camel wrote: post #249

rayiner wrote: post #239

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The point is that you have no moral obligation to read the news and learn about the suffering of distant people in some ill conceived attempt to try and empathize with them. Humans aren’t built that way. You don’t have a generalized obligation to inform yourself about the abstract struggles of others and give up your own priorities in some token gesture of support for those people. Take two people who both go to Burn…

>>The point is that you have no moral obligation to read the news and learn about the suffering of distant people in some ill conceived attempt to try and empathize with them. Humans aren’t built that way. You don’t have a generalized obligation to inform yourself about the abstract struggles of others and give up your own priorities in some token gesture of support for those people. Wow! Forget about the grandparent…

Post by intertextuality » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 5:21 AM UTC

bilbo0s wrote: post #150

dwaltrip wrote: post #142

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This is a good point. However, I think the major difference is the proportion of the content that is "outrage porn". I would argue that HN has a notably lower proportion.

Just took a look at my main "Go to", the BBC. It's difficult to tell, because the front page of BBC has so many more articles on it than the front page of HN, but the "outrage porn" proportion seems about equal to me. Right around 1/4 or 1/5 of the articles I would classify that way. Seems about the same as HN. Just for context, at the moment on HN, I'd say these are the "news"-y and "outrage porn"-y posts on the fro…

Post by rjf72 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 5:29 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #262

old-gregg wrote: post #255

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> I don't know what you are intending to mean with your first point. > Yes, you can change a word in my comment to a word with a different > meaning and it will change the meaning of what I said. > That doesn't mean what I said isn't true. By using the inflammatory vocabulary, you've re-framed the issue as a class conflict, pushing the proposed solution (ignoring the news) out of scope. This is a classic move straigh…

I really don't know what to say to you if you think "status quo" is inflammatory vocabulary. And I never said anything about suggestions from the media. You are mixing fact based news with opinion based news. You can be informed by ignoring opinion based news, but you still need fact based news to have an educated opinion on an issue.

Post by jv22222 » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 5:42 AM UTC

Post by bjelkeman-again » Thu, Apr 11, 2019, 5:47 AM UTC

vanderZwan wrote: post #180

Somewhat surprised that there is no mention of The Correspondent yet. The Dutch version has been quite successful for quite a few years now, and they're launching an international version later this year[0][1]. (Having said that, the authors of De Correspondent sometimes come across as oblivious to how their world views are shaped by living in the cultural bubble that is the Randstad[2]. There is a certain arrogance…