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EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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post #7

So underfunded and overworked EU agency is asked to manage reporting for poorly thought out and overly broad legislation. Maybe this is the best outcome as it might provide a valid defense for those who choose to ignore the notices.

> So underfunded and overworked EU agency

Like engineers who have never underestimated their time commitments to a project, government agencies have never been overfunded.

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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Politicians do not care about the ramifications of this. They only care about granting themselves power over who sees what when through the guise of combating hate speech, terrorism, child porn, etc. Posting a blog about this will change nothing.

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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It's very sad to see the path the EU has chosen to follow in regards to speech and the free flow of ideas.

It's a path that pre-dates the EU. We're a crowded continent with a huge amount of diversity and a long and bitter history of war. We have learned through bitter experience that, while free speech is a precious right, it is also an extremely dangerous one in the wrong circumstances. Germans in particular are acutely aware of the disastrous consequences of allowing incitement to go unchallenged.

Free speech is not unconditional in the US; there are many things that an American could say that would see them brought before the courts. European nations have simply drawn the line in a different place, for entirely understandable historical reasons.

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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It's very sad to see the path the EU has chosen to follow in regards to speech and the free flow of ideas.

It's a path that pre-dates the EU. We're a crowded continent with a huge amount of diversity and a long and bitter history of war. We have learned through bitter experience that, while free speech is a precious right, it is also an extremely dangerous one in the wrong circumstances. Germans in particular are acutely aware of the disastrous consequences of allowing incitement to go unchallenged. Free speech is not unc…

it is also an extremely dangerous one in the wrong circumstances

Such as when government is given too much power over it.

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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It's very sad to see the path the EU has chosen to follow in regards to speech and the free flow of ideas.

It's a path that pre-dates the EU. We're a crowded continent with a huge amount of diversity and a long and bitter history of war. We have learned through bitter experience that, while free speech is a precious right, it is also an extremely dangerous one in the wrong circumstances. Germans in particular are acutely aware of the disastrous consequences of allowing incitement to go unchallenged. Free speech is not unc…

Some of us have also learned that censorship can mean censorship of pacifist and anti-war speech: https://encyclopedia.1914-1918-online.net/article/censorship...

I'm sure sympathizing or trying to understand a terrorist's motives (perhaps their home country is being occupied by the US?) can fit under the terrorist content umbrella.

Edit: Let's not leave unaddressed the farcical idea that Europe prior to World War I was some bastion of free speech, and that this somehow led to the wars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Germany#German_E...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_the_United_Kingd...

https://www.h-net.org/reviews/showpdf.php?id=766

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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In situations with notice-and-takedown like this, I always wonder why there aren't stronger protections against abuse. Should a platform or user who had their content ordered removed in error be able to receive damages? Should the lawyers or civil servants instigating these notices be disciplined for issuing erroneous, improper, or overly broad takedown notices be disciplined or blacklisted?

Re: EU Agencies Falsely Report More Than 550 Archive.org URLs as Terrorist Content

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post #5

550 in the past week , not in total!

I guess someone put a test system on a live server? Doubth they have enough employees to have some just sit there filing takedown claims manually.

From their website it seems like they perform periodical "action days" where they sit down jointly with different groups and flag content on specific platforms. Might have been one of those.
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