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Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by 1123581321 »

wil421 wrote: post #69
Ma8ee wrote: post #66

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Yes! This is something that I have wondered for a long time. Why do people buy a car that covers all possible usecases for all year around instead of buying one that is ideal for daily use and then rent a bigger car for the week or two when you need it? It would be better for the wallet and for the environment.

I have a car payment, pay to maintain my car, and fees to drive it. Why would I buy a car knowing I would have to rent a car several times a year to go on vacation?

Most people do not take several vacations a year that require long drives.

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Post by natch »

Reason077 wrote: post #150
dragontamer wrote: post #135

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Short sessions are optimal. The battery charges faster when below 50% capacity.

That’s true, but you also spend extra time driving off the main road, pulling up to the charger, and plugging in. So while 2 stops is going to be much faster than 1 on a 500 mile journey, there’s likely to be diminishing returns after that.

Chargers are usually right near an exit.

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Post by kankroc »

dragontamer wrote: post #134
gpjanik wrote: post #56

I hate how Tesla advertises Model 3 as a 35k$ car. In Germany, the cheapest, bare bone version of it is around 60 000 (53k euro). At this price point, it doesn't make much sense, it's just better to get a car like Merc E Class.

Even in the US, the $35k Model 3 is still somewhat of a mystical creature. I don't believe anyone who has "bought" the car actually received it yet. Maybe in the next few weeks, the $35k will actually exist and we'll start seeing youtube reviews of the cloth interior (and other cutbacks they've done to get the price lower). But as far as I know, no such review exists yet. It was... what? 4 weeks ago when Tesla starte…

Not having a model in stock one month after announcing it is not a huge deal though. Time to delivery of a Chevrolet Bolt in Canada was over 6 months after launch :/

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by zwily »

yason wrote: post #149
gibolt wrote: post #119

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Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

Choosing Tesla is easy if all you care about is 0-100 km/h performance. However, not everyone do that.

It’s not just 0-100. Driving an EV is just more fun. (IMO of course).

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Post by zmarty »

edm0nd wrote: post #145
addflip wrote: post #73

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I own a BMW i3 and the Tesla Model 3. Both have cellular connections and are constantly pinging their motherships. At least on the Tesla I have the option of opting out. No such ability is available on the BMW.

You most certainly can prevent it from paging home to BMW. Either thru the settings menu or hacking it via ODB2 port and coding it off with software like E-Sys.

Yeah, like any normal customer would do. /s

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Post by Domenic_S »

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #106
govg wrote: post #94

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I think the idea is that you use the superchargers as part of a meal stop that you would make with an ordinary car anyway. If you stop every X km with a regular car for breaks, and Tesla's network ensures you can always find a supercharger in these steps, you can stop, eat / refresh yourself and by the time you're done your car will be ready to make the next leg.

When was the last time you saw a supercharger in a fast food or restaurant parking lot? I live in a part of the Northeast where Teslas are very popular but I haven't seen one.

From memory -

SLO, CA: Madonna Inn

Atascadero, CA: Denny's parking lot, across the street from a sandwich shop, 5 minute walk from more

Gilroy, CA: spitting distance of in-n-out, more in the same lot

San Jose, CA: big shopping center with BJ's, Chili's, panda express, etc

Someplace on the 5 between Kettleman city and LA: Subway parking lot

This is literally just from memory of the ones where I've been. Perhaps it's worse in other parts of the country?

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Post by auiya »

gibolt wrote: post #119
kayoone wrote: post #93

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But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

> And your Merc E won't get better with time.

Have you priced a classic Mercedes E-class lately? Allow me to help. https://www.classicdriver.com/en/cars/mercedes-benz/ponton-1...

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Post by whatshisface »

leetcrew wrote: post #160
gibolt wrote: post #119

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Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

accelerating really fast in a straight line is probably the most pointless aspect of "performance" for a car that gets driven on public roads. modern hot hatches that cost $25k are already too powerful to fully appreciate without getting your license taken away. a 230i or m240i is going to be much more fun to drive 10-15 mph over the speed limit than any Tesla. get one with a manual transmission while you still can.

You accelerate really fast in a straight line every time you pull out from a stop sign or red light. In fact if you are adhering to speed limits, accelerating really fast is the only way to save travel time.

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Post by dragontamer »

kankroc wrote: post #163
dragontamer wrote: post #134

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Even in the US, the $35k Model 3 is still somewhat of a mystical creature. I don't believe anyone who has "bought" the car actually received it yet. Maybe in the next few weeks, the $35k will actually exist and we'll start seeing youtube reviews of the cloth interior (and other cutbacks they've done to get the price lower). But as far as I know, no such review exists yet. It was... what? 4 weeks ago when Tesla starte…

Not having a model in stock one month after announcing it is not a huge deal though. Time to delivery of a Chevrolet Bolt in Canada was over 6 months after launch :/

The $35k Model 3 was "announced" in 2016, over two years ago, with $1000 pre-order deposits taken at that time. https://www.engadget.com/2016/03/31/tesla-unveils-its-35-000... There were promises about how this car would arrive in 2017 back then.

> The $35,000 (before federal tax credits) Model 3 sedan made its world debut at an event in Los Angeles. On stage, Elon Musk announced that the car will have at least 215 miles of range, 0-60 in under six seconds, and every single one will have Supercharging as a standard feature.

The $35k Model 3 hit Tesla's webpage with "2-to-4-weeks of delivery" in late Febuary. Its April, and no one has this car yet.

https://electrek.co/2019/02/28/tesla-model-3-standard-batter...

> Tesla says that deliveries are starting within the next 2 to 4 weeks depending on the configuration in the US.

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If you trick a bunch of people to come and try to buy a product that DOES NOT EXIST YET, and then convince them to buy something else when they enter the store... that's called a "Bait and Switch". Its literally an illegal sales tactic. Tesla isn't doing it to the point where it is illegal, but it is still clearly scummy behavior and toes the line.

People are coming to the Tesla stores looking for the $35k model, and are immediately being upsold to buy $40k or $45k vehicles instead. The 35k model is the bait, the $40k to $45k models are the switch.

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