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Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by bluedino » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:22 PM UTC

trca wrote: post #63

leejo wrote: post #19

Anecdata from someone living in a small Swiss village (c. 1,500 residents outside the ski season): - I see a handful of Teslas around the village. I would guesstimate 5 local residents own them. - The local taxi firm has a couple even. - Filling stations on the autoroutes have the charging points (at least in Romandy) - The country is small so, hey, it seems ideal I'd like to get one but it doesn't fit my use case (n…

I have a Model 3 and have gone on multiple long-distance road trips (>1,000 mile) with it. It's an absolute pleasure to drive with AutoPilot. Plus, most people already stop every 3-4 hours for bathroom/food breaks anyway, so if you use the in-car nav system (Google Maps), it will make it so those stops are at superchargers. The supercharger stops are almost always in high-density places with plenty of restaurants and…

Can Americans really not go 3 hours without more food?

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by leesalminen » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:23 PM UTC

dsfyu404ed wrote: post #137

Klathmon wrote: post #116

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I'd just caution against doing this in some areas. A member of a group I used to ride with decided to stop riding when someone opened their door to stop him from splitting in PA. He smacked into the door, was physically okay, but ended up getting charged with something like "illegal lane change", had his insurance prices skyrocket, and decided to stop riding as he had to drive for his job, and he was worried that ano…

The driver who opened their door is very lucky nothing serious came of it. Many motorcycle riders would treat that as an attempt on their life and react accordingly, probably not working out well for the car driver.

I’d say it probably wouldn’t work out well for anyone.

Where I live, ~50% of motorists are armed and no permits are required to do so. Road rage never ends well for anyone involved here.

The moral of the story is: be respectful of others. If you’re a motorcyclist in a state where it’s illegal to lane split, don’t do it. If you’re a driver in a state where it is legal, don’t be a dick to motorcyclists if they are lane splitting.

I’d also like to add that I think lane splitting is wildly dangerous and dread driving in California. Surely motorcyclists die from this every year?

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by i_am_proteus » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:24 PM UTC

swozey wrote: post #115

i_am_proteus wrote: post #101

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If you're on a motorcycle in stop-and-go traffic, just keep it in second gear and lane split. Even if it's not legal. If you're in clogged traffic, They can't get you, and you'll see the fuzz before they see you since you'll be overtaking.

That isn't about the fuzz. People who live in States/Cities (everywhere but CA, right?) where lane splitting is illegal aren't used to lane splitting. They aren't sitting in their cars watching out for bikers and they'll make abrupt lane changes without even looking for you. That's incredibly dangerous. I moved from FL (lane splitting is illegal but people seem used to it) to TX (no splitting) and doing that is a dea…

I've approached the practice with caution every time I've moved. I'm currently in California, and drivers here are more accepting of the practice due to legality, but for every three drivers who move over to give me more room, there's one who's texting and swerving.

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Post by Matthias247 » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:27 PM UTC

readhn wrote: post #20

i was flying through zurich recently. McDonalds big mac, fries and soda were $20 (!!!). Is everyone there pretty much a millionaire?

Switzerland definitely is the high-income and high-cost country in Europe. So a Model 3 will be comparably more cheap for those living there than for e.g. people in eastern Europe, based on the amount of income one needs to save in order to buy it at some point of time.

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Post by PinguTS » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:29 PM UTC

kalleboo wrote: post #81

leesec wrote: post #48

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The pleasure of driving for me does not come from making thousands of micro-adjustments constantly, in fact that's what makes a road trip exhausting. Autopilot reduces the stress and decision fatigue.

For my last roadtrip I got a rental car with Subaru's EyeSight adaptive cruise control and lane-keeping. After a day of driving with that I was noticeably less fatigued, and could afford to actually look out at the scenery every now and then. Definitely worth it, I imagine Tesla's system is even better.

Actually not. Subaru's EyeSight is currently the best system available. Especially in local traffic on detecting bicycles, kids and all those things even at night time.

Nobody else comes close.

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Post by stcredzero » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

yason wrote: post #149

gibolt wrote: post #119

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Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

Choosing Tesla is easy if all you care about is 0-100 km/h performance. However, not everyone do that.

Better to get in with the youth market, then go upmarket with them as they age.

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Post by Domenic_S » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:32 PM UTC

gibolt wrote: post #142

eclipxe wrote: post #126

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Regular software updates that add significant new features. Dashcam, dog mode, sentry mode, summon, etc.

Better range, doubled charging speeds, improved braking distance... It is a real case of downloading more RAM.

I was on vacation and got a notification that there was a firmware update for my Model 3 which was parked in my garage a thousand miles away. I remotely installed it and my car literally got 5% quicker.

Pretty crazy!

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Post by natch » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:35 PM UTC

jhalstead wrote: post #124

natch wrote: post #98

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I drove from San Diego to SF in one of my many long trips and most of my charging stops were 10 minutes. I also had two 20 minute stops, one 30 minute, and one 15 minute. The 30 minute stop was near the end where I wanted to arrive home near half full. Food, checking out local shops, and coffee + bathroom break for those three longer stops. For the short stops, it was just get a bit of charge, maybe a quick stretch o…

Correct me if I misunderstood (or read things too literally), but you're saying you stopped more than 8 times in a 500 mile trip? That seems like a lot, especially if they were for recharging. But I don't know the charging rate so maybe it was a case of many short sessions vs. 1 or 2 long ones? Note: I got >8 because you said most stops were 10-min and then listed 4 stops longer than 10-min.

Yes it was 9 or 10. But I was having fun checking out the different charging locations since it was only my second time on that route. There still are plenty more stations on that route that I haven’t been to yet, btw.

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Post by madengr » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:37 PM UTC

gibolt wrote: post #142

eclipxe wrote: post #126

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Regular software updates that add significant new features. Dashcam, dog mode, sentry mode, summon, etc.

Better range, doubled charging speeds, improved braking distance... It is a real case of downloading more RAM.

No, it’s like buying an 1 GHz oscilloscope and buying the license to enable the 2 GHz version. The hardware has always been there.

The test equipment industry is notorious for this. I can buy a $15k Keysight Fieldfox spectrum analyzer and turn it into a $50k instrument with license that enable hardware that is already there.

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Post by leetcrew » Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 4:37 PM UTC

gibolt wrote: post #119

kayoone wrote: post #93

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But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

accelerating really fast in a straight line is probably the most pointless aspect of "performance" for a car that gets driven on public roads. modern hot hatches that cost $25k are already too powerful to fully appreciate without getting your license taken away. a 230i or m240i is going to be much more fun to drive 10-15 mph over the speed limit than any Tesla. get one with a manual transmission while you still can.