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Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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No, the USD and the Euro have dropped tremendously relative to the Swiss Franc.

This doesn't strike me as a "tremendous drop". Or really much of any definitive change: https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&ei=LAmuXO...

To an extent what jacquesm is saying, is true. Here is the long-term USD vs Swiss Franc from 1971 to 2011:

https://i.imgur.com/vANpWK2.png

The Swiss have benefitted from maintaing a sound fiscal house and associated currency, over time. The US, much of Western Europe and Japan have been busy debasing themselves with enormous financial mistakes over the last several decades.

You can see two disastrous dollar periods in that chart. The Vietnam War, Johnson-Nixon, spending irresponsibility and inflation disaster of the 1970s. And the Bush war-on-terror, pump your way out of a recession to get re-elected, fiscal disaster of 2002-2008 (then the final nail in that stupidity wagon with the great recession crash that the Fed caused with interest rate mistakes after 9/11).

The US and Switzerland had the same GDP per capita in 2000, prior to the fiscal mistakes that sank the dollar shortly thereafter. Now it's more like $62,500 vs ~$80,000. If the US had been financially frugal, the dollar would be worth a lot more than it is today and the Swiss GDP per capita would be at least 1/3 lower in dollar terms.

By 1985, with the Volcker strong dollar, the US GDP per capita overtook Switzerland, $18k vs $16k. And before that, with the weak 1970s dollar, by 1980 the US was at ~$12k and the Swiss were nearly 50% higher at $18.

Which is to say, the horrible financial choices that Washington DC has made since the late 1960s, has severely harmed the average American, their purchasing power, their ability to save vs real inflation, their ability to see wage gains exceed the rate of real inflation consistently, and the ability of GDP growth to maximally exceed real inflation.

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Why would a Tesla?

Regular software updates that add significant new features. Dashcam, dog mode, sentry mode, summon, etc.

Better range, doubled charging speeds, improved braking distance...

It is a real case of downloading more RAM.

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Funnily enough, you could argue the same about the Mercedes E class. For the price of a Mercedes, you could get a Tesla. :-)

But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Do you mean particularly model 3?

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Charging is really not much of a “cognitive load” in my experience. The navigation system can plan it for you, suggesting exactly where you should charge and how long it’ll take. As for extra time spent charging? I guess there are those out there who really do drive more than 4-5 hours at once without stopping for a meal, stretch, toilet break, etc. But surely they’re a tiny minority.

Do you really always stop for your meal break somewhere there's a supercharger? A meal and a charger are not located in the same place for most people most of the time.

Right now you might be planning stops according to where there’s a supercharger. But charging networks are expanding all the time.

This is especially in Europe, where in a Model 3, you also have the choice of using competing CCS charging networks like Ionity.

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I'd like a tesla but not comfortable with their data policy. If tesla provides a way to opt out I may consider a base model 3 in the future.

I own a BMW i3 and the Tesla Model 3. Both have cellular connections and are constantly pinging their motherships. At least on the Tesla I have the option of opting out. No such ability is available on the BMW.

You most certainly can prevent it from paging home to BMW. Either thru the settings menu or hacking it via ODB2 port and coding it off with software like E-Sys.

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I have a car payment, pay to maintain my car, and fees to drive it. Why would I buy a car knowing I would have to rent a car several times a year to go on vacation?

One reason I do is to avoid the mileage I put on a vacation car. I could travel 1,500 miles across several states while on a vacation trip. That’s 1-2 months of normal driving that I instead put on rental car for about $150.

1,5000 miles * 0.50 = $750 even subtracting gasoline (25mpg @ $3.00/gal) $180 you're still coming out like $500 ahead vs wear and tear on your car

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Why buy a car you'll own and pay for the whole year based on the usage for a few weeks? Wouldn't it make more sense to rent a road trip car when you need it?

I don't know about Switzerland, but renting a car is pretty expensive in some countries. So buying something like a Tesla, or another car, with high resale value may be the better deal, even if you only need it for a month or two a year.

In the USA you can get a Ford Fusion from $40-$50 a day with unlimited miles. And that's not including special prices or discounts

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I am bit conflicted about the opinion on long road trips is because now I cant think of any other car other than Tesla for Long Road Trips because 1. Auto Pilot takes so much stress away. For starters consider it as ADAS 2. Never had problem with charging where i live. 10 to 20 minute stop for another 4 hrs drive in average. I did a long road trip from San Diego to Breckenridge more than 2000 miles (round trip) and n…

I think it really just depends on charger availability. Probably could not perform that same trip if you lived in the midwest.

rent a car if that's the issue. As a daily driver it makes so much more sense and all the "but the roadtrips" people vastly overestimate how often that actually happens. I know because I used to be one.

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But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

Choosing Tesla is easy if all you care about is 0-100 km/h performance. However, not everyone do that.

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Correct me if I misunderstood (or read things too literally), but you're saying you stopped more than 8 times in a 500 mile trip? That seems like a lot, especially if they were for recharging. But I don't know the charging rate so maybe it was a case of many short sessions vs. 1 or 2 long ones? Note: I got >8 because you said most stops were 10-min and then listed 4 stops longer than 10-min.

Short sessions are optimal. The battery charges faster when below 50% capacity.

That’s true, but you also spend extra time driving off the main road, pulling up to the charger, and plugging in.

So while 2 stops is going to be much faster than 1 on a 500 mile journey, there’s likely to be diminishing returns after that.

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