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Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

How long does the battery in a Tesla last? What’s the cost to replace it?

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But Merc E is multiple classes above the Tesla in terms of space, interior quality and luxury/comfort.

Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

A Mercedes E class won't get totaled if you get into a fender bender.

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Yes! This is something that I have wondered for a long time. Why do people buy a car that covers all possible usecases for all year around instead of buying one that is ideal for daily use and then rent a bigger car for the week or two when you need it? It would be better for the wallet and for the environment.

Because there are many great cars that fit all those requirements and that are usually cheaper than a current Tesla, better equiped than a Tesla (autopilot being the single exception, even though BMW, Porsche, VW and many others already have lane assist which is basically a little worse (but still comparable) version of Tesla's autopilot). Why bother with renting when you can just take your own car?

"basically a little worse (but still comparable)". No, not even close. I had an M5 with BMW's latest lane keeping assist. Tesla's Autopilot is exponentially better. Especially in the last two weeks with unattended highway lane changes. It is night and day different.

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I hate how Tesla advertises Model 3 as a 35k$ car. In Germany, the cheapest, bare bone version of it is around 60 000 (53k euro). At this price point, it doesn't make much sense, it's just better to get a car like Merc E Class.

Even in the US, the $35k Model 3 is still somewhat of a mystical creature. I don't believe anyone who has "bought" the car actually received it yet.

Maybe in the next few weeks, the $35k will actually exist and we'll start seeing youtube reviews of the cloth interior (and other cutbacks they've done to get the price lower). But as far as I know, no such review exists yet. It was... what? 4 weeks ago when Tesla started selling the $35k on their website?

And its still not actually around...

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I drove from San Diego to SF in one of my many long trips and most of my charging stops were 10 minutes. I also had two 20 minute stops, one 30 minute, and one 15 minute. The 30 minute stop was near the end where I wanted to arrive home near half full. Food, checking out local shops, and coffee + bathroom break for those three longer stops. For the short stops, it was just get a bit of charge, maybe a quick stretch o…

Correct me if I misunderstood (or read things too literally), but you're saying you stopped more than 8 times in a 500 mile trip? That seems like a lot, especially if they were for recharging. But I don't know the charging rate so maybe it was a case of many short sessions vs. 1 or 2 long ones? Note: I got >8 because you said most stops were 10-min and then listed 4 stops longer than 10-min.

Short sessions are optimal. The battery charges faster when below 50% capacity.

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Why? Do they have to buy electric cars in Switzerland (aka: gasoline cars are banned)? Or maybe everyone just have that extra money to blow? Or maybe they get large incentives from the Government? In the US it would take something like 15 years to pay for the difference between a Honda Civic and a Tesla Model-3 (both cars are about the same size)

Nope - no such ban. It's probably a combination of pent-up demand, Switzerland being (generally) affluent, and having a reasonably environmentally-friendly culture.

Do the corporations also care about the enviroment in Switzerland?

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If you're on a motorcycle in stop-and-go traffic, just keep it in second gear and lane split. Even if it's not legal. If you're in clogged traffic, They can't get you, and you'll see the fuzz before they see you since you'll be overtaking.

I'd just caution against doing this in some areas. A member of a group I used to ride with decided to stop riding when someone opened their door to stop him from splitting in PA. He smacked into the door, was physically okay, but ended up getting charged with something like "illegal lane change", had his insurance prices skyrocket, and decided to stop riding as he had to drive for his job, and he was worried that ano…

The driver who opened their door is very lucky nothing serious came of it. Many motorcycle riders would treat that as an attempt on their life and react accordingly, probably not working out well for the car driver.

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

How long does the battery in a Tesla last? What’s the cost to replace it?

Battery degredation seems to bottom out between 85-90% capacity on most cars after a lot of miles. Likely will never need a replacement.

If I recall correctly, most of the lowest performers are older S and X. The 3 is expected to degrade even slower with their improved battery cells and thermal management.

https://electrek.co/2018/04/14/tesla-battery-degradation-dat...

Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland

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Not performance. And your Merc E won't get better with time.

How long does the battery in a Tesla last? What’s the cost to replace it?

So far all we have is anecdotal evidence

https://www.teslarati.com/tesloop-tesla-model-s-400k-miles-b...

Is it better or worse as far as total costs compared to a Mercedes-Benz with 645,000 km on it?

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