I'd like a tesla but not comfortable with their data policy. If tesla provides a way to opt out I may consider a base model 3 in the future.
There is a way to opt out. It's a setting within the vehicle.
Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland
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Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland
#42Anecdata from someone living in a small Swiss village (c. 1,500 residents outside the ski season): - I see a handful of Teslas around the village. I would guesstimate 5 local residents own them. - The local taxi firm has a couple even. - Filling stations on the autoroutes have the charging points (at least in Romandy) - The country is small so, hey, it seems ideal I'd like to get one but it doesn't fit my use case (n…
The Tesla Model 3 is very capable of long road trips, especially in the summer, with a range of 500km or more. The only exception would be if you’re driving in very remote areas with no charging infrastructure, but that almost doesn’t exist any more in Western Europe. The Tesla Supercharger network, combined with its ability to charge on CCS charging networks like Ionity, make it uniquely suited to long distance trav…
You can drive a manual in stop and go traffic (and I don't mean that suburban sprawl "run through the gears between each stop light" type of stop and go you get in some places, I mean like going 10-30ft at a time between stops). That doesn't make it not obviously worse for the task than an automatic.
The extra cognitive load of having to worry about range and where you're going to charge is a pain in the butt that most people will opt out of, all else being close to equal.
Re: Tesla Model 3 becomes best-selling car in Switzerland
#43i was flying through zurich recently. McDonalds big mac, fries and soda were $20 (!!!). Is everyone there pretty much a millionaire?
No, the USD and the Euro have dropped tremendously relative to the Swiss Franc.
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#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whats is the all in final cost for a Tesla 3 that you guys are paying in Switzerland? Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price?
Is it really 35k in USA? Prices in Europe include taxes.
The entry level model is 35K before tax breaks (which is $3750 now IIRC). Some places in the US have sales tax, some not.
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A Chevy Volt would be perfect for your use case. Disclosure: happy Volt owner that my wife drives 95% around town with the occasional 120-300 mi road trip.
It's not sold in Europe. You can buy Prius plugin hybrid, new Corolla hybrid, BMW 330e etc.
It was, as the Opel Ampera. You can find them used.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
A Chevy Volt would be perfect for your use case. Disclosure: happy Volt owner that my wife drives 95% around town with the occasional 120-300 mi road trip.
It's not sold in Europe. You can buy Prius plugin hybrid, new Corolla hybrid, BMW 330e etc.
Opel Ampera.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
Whats is the all in final cost for a Tesla 3 that you guys are paying in Switzerland? Im guessing its at least a double of a promised $35K USA price?
Is it really 35k in USA? Prices in Europe include taxes.
It seems like it. If I go to tesla.com/model3 and start the process for a base (standard range = 220 miles) RWD sedan, it's $35k before $3750 federal credit and $1750 state (PA) rebate.
You can get it any color, as long as it's black. Any other color costs $1500, and getting rims different from the total black stock ones are also $1500.
The interior is black cloth with manual seat adjustments and "basic audio." At least on this version, there are no options to change that. Ahh the next step up trim level is "Partial Premium Interior" for $2500.
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Road trips are a joy with autopilot.
Really? Autopilot seems like it would make for a pretty boring road trip. You need to pay attention to the road but you’re not driving.
The pleasure of driving for me does not come from making thousands of micro-adjustments constantly, in fact that's what makes a road trip exhausting.
Autopilot reduces the stress and decision fatigue.
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Not true. The first Model 3 arrived in Switzerland in the 3rd week of February (2019-02-16). Tesla already sold 316 in February 2019 (+754% YoY). How much of an exceptional month March will be for the year, we'll see after the April data is released. The number of preorders for Model 3 in Switzerland should be easily 1 order of magnitude higher than what they delivered in March.
I love your "The recent trend of ideologically motivated downvoting of factual arguments [...]" and then downvoting on ideological grounds with "+754%" right out "How to Lie with Statistics". Looking at the graph in the article shows the whole picture.
> then downvoting on ideological grounds
I downvoted a clearly factually wrong statement, namely that "all preorders were delivered in one month".
The "754%" were a direct quote, source above, that indicates clearly that March wasn't the first (and only) month with increased sales due to the Model 3. Individual sales figures for the Model 3 were not available to me, otherwise I would have posted them (my estimate is around 280-300).
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Tesla Model 3 is very capable of long road trips, especially in the summer, with a range of 500km or more. The only exception would be if you’re driving in very remote areas with no charging infrastructure, but that almost doesn’t exist any more in Western Europe. The Tesla Supercharger network, combined with its ability to charge on CCS charging networks like Ionity, make it uniquely suited to long distance trav…
You can drive a manual in stop and go traffic (and I don't mean that suburban sprawl "run through the gears between each stop light" type of stop and go you get in some places, I mean like going 10-30ft at a time between stops). That doesn't make it not obviously worse for the task than an automatic. The extra cognitive load of having to worry about range and where you're going to charge is a pain in the butt that mo…
In the tesla's, if you input your route into the car's gps, it'll automatically route you to charging stations as needed