Inside the Fortified, Nuke-Proof Bunker that's Now Hosting Wikileaks

Post by yankeeracer73 » Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 12:47 PM UTC

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It looks like 2000 of those bunkers were sold back in 2002 for $25,000 each. http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/11/230203 Here's a map with links to pictures of 5 of the nuclear hardened sites. http://coldwar-c4i.net/ATT_Project/index.html

You can also just buy old (ICBM) missile silos; unfortunately, they are often in pretty bad repair, flooded, and may contain PCBs or asbestos. http://www.silohome.com/atlas_f_missile_silo_for_sale_ultima... is a particularly nice example of a residential conversion, though. Moses Lake, WA has a site which got used for ToorCamp, a hacker conference, a couple years ago. http://joachimp.fotki.com/events/toorcamp/page4.h…

Post by crocowhile » Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 1:38 PM UTC

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They get an easy pass. The idea of this ever going to Amazon in the first place just seems extraordinarily ill-conceived: There was no way it was going to stay up. Wikileaks is pursuing a remarkably old-school method of releasing these, with the whole centralized distribution point. They should release the entire set via P2P with collections symmetrically encrypted. They could then -- via the most rudimentary methods…

I wonder why they're not doing that.

Post by ergo98 » Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 2:11 PM UTC

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Even better, they should encrypt with a method that is reasonably, large-scale crackable around the window of their planned release. That would bring a lot of attention to cryptography (and the vulnerability of the same) as every media organization rents out massive AWS GPU clusters to try to crack it. That would be pretty entertaining. And if something happened to them...well it's going to be discovered anyways.

> the vulnerability of [cryptography] Well, no. Competently done crypto is uncrackable for all practical purposes without side-channel attacks. Or, maybe, quantum computers (RSA; but why would you use RSA for this?)

Post by arethuza » Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 3:03 PM UTC

JoachimSchipper wrote: post #33

ergo98 wrote: post #12

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Even better, they should encrypt with a method that is reasonably, large-scale crackable around the window of their planned release. That would bring a lot of attention to cryptography (and the vulnerability of the same) as every media organization rents out massive AWS GPU clusters to try to crack it. That would be pretty entertaining. And if something happened to them...well it's going to be discovered anyways.

> the vulnerability of [cryptography] Well, no. Competently done crypto is uncrackable for all practical purposes without side-channel attacks. Or, maybe, quantum computers (RSA; but why would you use RSA for this?)

Post by brazzy » Thu, Dec 02, 2010, 3:35 PM UTC

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As far as articles go, I'm not impressed with this one. Although I'd be willing to admit that my interest in all things Wikileaks is seriously waning. That said, there was little to no information about the actual data center, other than a link to a Forbes article about the first time Wikileaks moved there. They even embedded the same video from that original article. Throw in an offhand and speculative comment about…