I just need a programmer
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I just need a programmer
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Re: I just need a programmer
#2Wait, so they're surprised that they can't find students willing to work hard in return for some vague hope of money in the future?
Wow. Color me shocked. /sarcasm
And the advice that they could just learn programming themselves? I don't think anyone ever says 'I need X, but don't know anything about it myself. I'll just learn it.' (At least, nobody that thinks logically.) It doesn't work that way. (Okay, granted, some small number of people might think that and actually succeed at it. But at the cost of things they could have been doing efficiently, instead.)
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#3Wait, so they're surprised that they can't find students willing to work hard in return for some vague hope of money in the future? Wow. Color me shocked. /sarcasm And the advice that they could just learn programming themselves? I don't think anyone ever says 'I need X, but don't know anything about it myself. I'll just learn it.' (At least, nobody that thinks logically.) It doesn't work that way. (Okay, granted, so…
"I don't think anyone ever says 'I need X, but don't know anything about it myself. I'll just learn it.'"
Yes, people do that. Like me, when I was interested in having a strawbale house I read a book and built a strawbale house (took 6 months). Learned a lot about construction in the process. When I wanted a website, I read a book and built my first website. Like the house, it was not the ultimate expression in its field but it was a website. So now I am not an expert at construction nor website building but I do know a whole lot more than the average person and I do know what parts are hard and what parts are easy. Makes the conversations with the real professionals much easier.
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#4It seems funny to me that so many people want to be software entrepreneurs, but refuse to learn about software.
Six months ago I quit my banking job of five years to learn how to program. I am taking discrete math, data structures & algorithms, and computer organization courses as a non-degree student. I am also up to speed with python/django/HTML/CSS/JS, or at least I know them well enough to hack a prototype together.
Programming is overwhelming at first, but seriously, it's not that hard to learn enough to test out your ideas.
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#5It seems funny to me that so many people want to be software entrepreneurs, but refuse to learn about software. Six months ago I quit my banking job of five years to learn how to program. I am taking discrete math, data structures & algorithms, and computer organization courses as a non-degree student. I am also up to speed with python/django/HTML/CSS/JS, or at least I know them well enough to hack a prototype togeth…
Most people are good at what they're good at, so it makes no sense for them to learn something they have little interest or skill in. The typical request from a non-tech guy is not in implementing a hard engineering problem like database management or search query structure, but in putting together what is typically a glorified e-commerce site or social site (digg etc).
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#6Funny, I have the opposite problem. I need a biz-guy!
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#7What it really boils down to is the drive of the individual. If you're not willing to do whatever it takes to make the dream a reality then you're not an entrepreneur.
That might mean growing your network to find a co-founder or it might mean buckling down and learning to program yourself.
There's so much free information out there today that ignorance is no excuse.
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#8It seems funny to me that so many people want to be software entrepreneurs, but refuse to learn about software. Six months ago I quit my banking job of five years to learn how to program. I am taking discrete math, data structures & algorithms, and computer organization courses as a non-degree student. I am also up to speed with python/django/HTML/CSS/JS, or at least I know them well enough to hack a prototype togeth…
Most people are good at what they're good at, so it makes no sense for them to learn something they have little interest or skill in. The typical request from a non-tech guy is not in implementing a hard engineering problem like database management or search query structure, but in putting together what is typically a glorified e-commerce site or social site (digg etc).
Implementing a social or an e-commerce site requires skill if you don't want to deliver a me-too product that will utterly fail.
To be an entrepreneur regardless of the domain, you either have to have enough money to buy top talent or you need to be able to do the job yourself.
E.g. you will utterly fail to start a business that produces tasty eco-sausages if you have no idea how to: a) produce or buy eco meat or other ingredients and b) make tasty sausages or c) hire a chef working for a 4 starts restaurant that loves to make sausages
If you don't believe me, try it out.
Entrepreneurs that think coming up with an idea is enough, and "just need a programmer" are lying to themselves. But hey, they are free to try it out.
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#9I'm one of these guys.
Why didn't I learn to program? I had maybe an hour/day in between my job and my side hustle, and I just didn't have enough time to get through the problems in order to be a good programmer.
Since then, I've found that watching projects come to life, while learning on the side, has made it much easier to pick up Objective C, Javascript, Ruby, etc. Of course, I didn't expect programmers to work for free...that would be ridiculous.
That being said, it's kind of like learning HTML or CSS, unless you're doing it actively, full-time, for months or even years, it's going to take some time to feel like you know what you're doing.
Lastly, there are so many languages. There's Ruby, Python, PHP, C and its variants, etc. Do you learn web languages or something like Objective C?
Those are some of the things that went through my mind when I started.
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#10Funny, I have the opposite problem. I need a biz-guy!
Me too. I can't find someone with idea, no matter how stupid, no matter how hard I try. Going to 'networking events' usually yields dozens of business cards of people who want to sell 'services' to 'local businesses' (design, legal, accounting, market research, whatever...) but they all just want to get paid by the hour - let along that one of them could come up with an idea.
So that causes the situation where you have 30 or 50 people all trying to sell each other the same services, with nobody who can actually create anything new.