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Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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I had never thought about this before but from this repo I can see all these smart engineers at the big tech firms live within their own walled garden (or prison?). If it weren’t for such a vibrant open source world then they’d really be stuck if they tried to apply their knowledge outside of their companies. Thanks for sharing the repo!

They don’t, and if you’ve got the G-factor, pun intended, to get an offer at Google you can get an offer anywhere. Which, honestly, makes this repository all the more confusing to me. I’m sure there are some people that have lived only within this ecosystem, but that’s the possibly the height of privilege.

Eh you'd be surprised, I couldn't even get an interview with some places, got denied from others, but now work at Google doing full stack. Every technology I use though is Google internal, and I don't have much knowledge of full stack development outside of Google. Some companies just test your algo / ds / system design knowledge, and sure I do fine there, but any specific knowledge I'm useless. TBH I think I'm not very good at any one language either because I often have to switch

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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We literally talked about this this week https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19576092 Are people really still jerking about a company that's been around for like a 1/4 of a century?

I still have used an editor from a company far older than Google, and would love to learn what life was like on a Symbolics system or the dirty tricks of obsolete networks.

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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I had never thought about this before but from this repo I can see all these smart engineers at the big tech firms live within their own walled garden (or prison?). If it weren’t for such a vibrant open source world then they’d really be stuck if they tried to apply their knowledge outside of their companies. Thanks for sharing the repo!

A lot more than just ex-FAANG folks would be stuck without the OSS technologies listed in the right column. I daresay, considering much of this software was authored by Xooglers or inspired by Google papers, that it's actually everyone else who would be stuck. The folks who have seen how these problems can be solved at scale would just reimplement the solutions, as indeed they have done.

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is almost the other way around. Many of these open-source projects, have roots with engineers leaving these big companies and wanting to use the same tools, so they create them. Or, by these big companies releasing papers and then folks creating open-source versions. Here's some examples of the latter: Dapper (w/ OpenTracing) [1], Spanner (w/ CockroachDB) [2], Borg (w/ Mesos) [3], Dremel (w/ Drill) [4]. I'm sure t…

Prometheus is borgmon. Which is a bit funny as it's used by k8s now. It's also funny as the author left Google, wrote it in 2 years for SoundCloud, then went back to Google. https://prometheus.io

Why is the part that k8s uses it funny? That would have been one of the goals right? K8s is like lot of these projects except that it was created as a open source version of borg from within Google.

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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Where AWS/GitHub is mentioned, there should be the equivalent Azure stuff, especially for bug tracking, CI/CD, repo subfolder "owners", code review, there's a ton of stuff equivalent or better to buganizer, OWNERS file, etc .

In services there should be vitess since it's both a YouTube and an open source project.

It seem to have a new transactional messaging feature with message sending and Ack: https://vitess.io/docs/advanced/messaging/, which seem to fill a slightly different niche than rabbitmq/pubsub/etc.

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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Where AWS/GitHub is mentioned, there should be the equivalent Azure stuff, especially for bug tracking, CI/CD, repo subfolder "owners", code review, there's a ton of stuff equivalent or better to buganizer, OWNERS file, etc . In services there should be vitess since it's both a YouTube and an open source project. It seem to have a new transactional messaging feature with message sending and Ack: https://vitess.io/doc…

Cool, go ahead and open a PR. It says they are welcomed.

Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They don’t, and if you’ve got the G-factor, pun intended, to get an offer at Google you can get an offer anywhere. Which, honestly, makes this repository all the more confusing to me. I’m sure there are some people that have lived only within this ecosystem, but that’s the possibly the height of privilege.

Eh you'd be surprised, I couldn't even get an interview with some places, got denied from others, but now work at Google doing full stack. Every technology I use though is Google internal, and I don't have much knowledge of full stack development outside of Google. Some companies just test your algo / ds / system design knowledge, and sure I do fine there, but any specific knowledge I'm useless. TBH I think I'm not v…

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Re: Xg2xg: Lookup table of similar tech and services for ex-Googlers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prometheus is borgmon. Which is a bit funny as it's used by k8s now. It's also funny as the author left Google, wrote it in 2 years for SoundCloud, then went back to Google. https://prometheus.io

Why is the part that k8s uses it funny? That would have been one of the goals right? K8s is like lot of these projects except that it was created as a open source version of borg from within Google.

It’s funny because inside google borgmon is deprecated for new projects and has been since nine years at least. Of course google has stretched “deprecated” to its limits.
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